blaming nixon on the war protesters instead of the party maintaining a deeply unpopular pro-war stance
If only JFKs head hadn't just done that
Not to mention what the Dems did to McGovern in 72...
Dems coming full circle and supporting the Vietnam war
I don't understand why libs disavow previous wars. If I was a lib, I would still be pretending that Iraq and Afghanistan were justified, that Saddam actually did have WMDs, that those soldiers really did throw babies out of incubators, etc. It's better, from their perspective, than giving the left even an inch.
Most of them are too cowardly to maintain the line in the face of (albiet belated) scorn from their peer group. Those that aren't get cushy media jobs.
What I see from the lanyard types is a position that the Iraq War wasn’t bad in the abstract but bad because Dubya didn’t follow proper protocol in authorizing the war. Pusillanimous triangulation as usual.
"If y'all don't like the ruling class oppressing you so much, then just let them oppressing you!"
Wow, brilliant take. Sounds like they should have kept protesting after Vietnam. Sounds like maybe we stopped too soon.
great takes in that thread:
This actually isn’t right. The main thing that pushed the country to the right and led to Nixon was the race riots of the 60s. Read Omar wasows research.
oh really, the race riots, eh? why were there race riots?
The fact that white people hated the civil rights movement so much they actually rioted (often harnessing that anger on school busing programs) has been completely memory holed and we all just sorta pretend like it never happened. Even as someone who likes to read history, I don’t really know all that much about it. But I assume it never gets brought up in history class or society at large because it spoils the narrative of “MLK Jr gave a speech, we passed a law, and now we have total equality and racism had been defeated”.
A lot of people come to the realization that society fought MLK, watched him die and then said "oh! oh! I agreed with him the whole time"
But it's worse. What they really said was "He agreed with me the whole time"
Yup. After MLK ended racism, everyone forgets about how the white people who formed lunch mobs and bombed people are still walking around, probably shopping for tomatoes next to you.
Race riots?
More like, racist riots.
White person y'alling POC protesters on why what they get from the ruling class is what they deserve
MLK should have just voted blue
Yall is the only non gendered second person plural pronoun. Much better than saying "you guys".
More yinz erasure...
In my part of Ireland we say "ye" for a plural you, like "how are ye doing?" Some people in Dublin say "yous" or "yis"
I am not American. Why are Americans constantly using “y’all” now?
It's been a normal word in the south forever. Outside of the south it's been pretty normal among black people. Black vernacular English has gained more prominence over the past few decades I think.
because it's gender neutral. similar thing with folks(/folx, ugh) In some cases it's also used to be condescending/ironic, plus s just love appropriating turns of phrase from black people
There is a bad wiff of gone off mayo of it now alright. The constant use of folk in lefty writing is annoying too.
You is both singular and plural, back in old english there used to be "thou" but they decided they didn't need it... now they decided they needed it again idk
Carter literally fumbled the youth vote with deeply unpopular policies that could have easily avoided, instead he got btfo by a senile actor who killed a student in protests against bombing children
Libs wanna talk about history but don’t wanna talk about how it fits together smh
Carter sucks but I’ll give him props for returning the Canal to Panama. Apparently doing that really hit his popularity hard, though of course there were a lot of other things. The American people get the blame for that one,
Not to mention what he did in Indonesia.
Here's a good essay that responds to this particular brand of ghoulery.
So here is my question for Joe Biden, the one man who has been anointed to save America from the terrifying notion of another Trump administration: Why have you decided to force American voters who do not want a fascist president to step over the bodies of thousands of dead civilians in order to vote for you? Why? What are you thinking? The Biden administration itself is subjecting all of us to this blood-soaked political kabuki, in which we are all supposed to grin tightly and talk about the CHIPS Act and investment in green energy and studiously ignore the thousands of dead children strewn all around us. It is as if the night before a big game, the New York Yankees went out and shot up an elementary school, and then turned to their fans and shrugged, “What are you gonna do—cheer for the Red Sox?”
Easy. Liberals think those people deserved it
"We need to give republicans everything they want, or else they'll have the pleasure of just taking it!"
How's tailism working out for Biden, btw? He LET abortion bans and trans criminalization happen across the country because "muh bipartisanship" but normies STILL think he's too far left.
Just weapons grade libbin. Not to mention : Y'all. Anyways I tried to look at what else this genius person said. Here's another masterpiece.
I love that this person is handwringing at people protesting while all the liberal cadre wouldn't bat an eye at operation phoenix.
Not to mention : Y'all.
She’s from Texas, that’s the least of what’s wrong with her lol
lol china is communist when they do bad thing, capitalist when they do good thing, and state capitalist red fash when they simply breathe
If doing the right thing (fighting for the liberation of Palestine) makes you unpopular with American voters, then America deserves whatever hell is wrought upon it in the aftermath.
"We must save democracy!"
Binch, if the only available choice is what icing you get on the genocide cake, you have no democracy worth saving. Fuck your democracy and fuck you for asking people of conscience to humor your bullshit.
The political theory of "doing nothing is the best way to move policy to your side"
It’s an objectively true statement but not for the reasons she thinks. American imperialists of the Cold War era de-radicalized anti-war advocates, union members, and other progressives by ending the draft and offering a still-viable path to the so-called middle class.
These libs are such fucking losers I stg. Absolutely no awareness of history or anything outside of their small bubble
no protest only
I've made jokes about galaxy brain takes in the past but I am literally unable to approach this. It's so far beyond a galaxy take. Beyond a universe take. Beyond the history of western philosophy and analysis. It's transcendental. We can't even see the logic because it is SO BEYOND THOUGHT
LBJ said "We’ve lost the south for a generation" when he signed the Civil Rights act in June 1964. It was proposed by Kennedy, and LBJ pushed it through congress after the assassination. His election was a few months later. Compare the electoral maps:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_United_States_presidential_election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1956_United_States_presidential_election
The US entered the Vietnam war around that time period too but do you think of the Jim Crow south as being extremely anti-war?
She's why KKKracker changed its spelling over the years.
Even if that were the case, I unironically would rather die, get everyone else killed, and plunge the world into a century of deepest reaction than pander to gormless fucks I have nothing but contempt for
Nixon to... Reagan!
If Biden and US-backed Israel's genocide is like the Vietnam War and continues for more than four years - everybody in Gaza is already dead.
A couple days ago if somebody had mentioned "Nixon to Reagan" as a joke - I would have thought it was an excellent bit. But I guess it's the developing lib line and I am aghast. Yesterday night when I was watching MSNBC - I thought to myself "Are you fucking kidding?" when a panel with serious tones in their voices mentioned it too.
This is Jimmy erasure.
"until 1990's" are you sure? it really looks like republicans are still dominating politics. we have a president that makes reagan look like a leftist and he is lib president.
I don't know this person and hadn't seen the title, so I had assumed she was looking at the facts and reaching the conclusion that democrats supporting foreign invasions was what led to Reagan and the overton window moving further right.
I'll not tell anyone that supporting the illegal entity occupying Palestine and its genocide will cost the corpse of Biden the election, that it'll lose them the next generation, or some such. At this stage of their development, bourgeois dictatorships have successfully changed what the truth is, mass media has greater influence on the people than reality. Therefore the usian youth having the inkling of an idea what's going on is cause for celebration.
Also, understanding the ideology of these morons better than themselves is quite boring. Anyone here can rattle off 7 reasons why this tweet is in contradiction with their stated beliefs but not their true ideology, yet they can't so much as imagine it.
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