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submitted 2 months ago by silence7@slrpnk.net to c/politics@lemmy.world

RFK Jr, like the other third party candidates, is running as a spoiler to help Trump — his staff have even said so:

The only way that Trump can even, remote possibility of taking New York is if Bobby is on the ballot. If it’s Trump vs. Biden, Biden wins. Biden wins six days, seven days a week. With Bobby in the mix, anything can happen

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[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago

Seriously, who the fuck cares about this guy? Who sees him and says, "there's the guy that'll get enough votes for president that I'm willing to throw mine away."

[-] JokklMaster@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago

Look around lemmy. You have tons of people saying they don't like either candidate or their vote doesn't matter so they won't vote. Imagine how many people out there are willing to vote for a candidate from a dynasty.

[-] zaph@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 months ago

Imagine how many people out there are willing to vote for a candidate from a dynasty

Every time I try I see red hats. I'm struggling to belive those people would have voted for Biden regardless.

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 months ago

Don’t underestimate the dipshit antivaxxer hippies out there that were otherwise democratic voters (if they could remember to vote.

I know a couple. I’m working on them but not very hopeful. I’m also a bit worried their kid is gonna die from whooping cough or measles.

[-] Leeny@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 months ago

I assume many of those are bots or paid trolls

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago

Oftentimes they're just useful idiots who troll for free or just naive young people who would rather take an ineffective moral stance than compromise and accomplish real positive change.

There is a widespread sentiment of "I'm not voting for Genocide Joe" while refusing to be mature enough to realize the next president will either be Trump or Biden and Biden is clearly the better chance.

As a long time Sanders supporter I'd love someone better on the ballot, but I voted for Hillary and I'll vote for Biden because our current system doesn't allow any other options.

In the adult world our choices are often a turd sandwich or a shit taco - I currently work at a PE controlled company with fantastic coworkers, I could jump ship but my work satisfaction is almost certainly higher where I am... even with the constant cuts and exploitation.

[-] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Lemmy isn't really big enough to warrant those afaik.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

On the contrary, Lemmy has a massive bot problem. Bots are cheap to operate, and unlike major corporations who make security and spam a focus, federation allows them to leverage smaller servers with poor sign up requirements to hide across the fediverse.

[-] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

I saw a bumper sticker for this guy in Oklahoma so apparently there some morons everywhere. But I don't see him taking Biden votes.

I think thier afraid he will take away Trump votes.

[-] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago

The few people I know who have mentioned they'd vote for him are people who would vote (or did vote) for T****.

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

This has always been my take on him. He's basically a Republican but too chicken shit to challenge Trump for the GOP nomination directly so instead he's running as a Democrat. The reality is he never stood a chance in either party, the GOP because Trump has cornered the market for gullible idiots, and the DNC because he's blatantly conservative.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 months ago

He's not even running as a Democrat. Once it became clear that Biden was going to get 80%+ of the vote in the Democratic primary, RFK Jr decided to run as an independent, but to try and trade on his name, rather than run on the pro-measles positions he's been pushing for the past couple decades.

[-] negativenull@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

I have a family member, who have always been republicans (voted for Trump both times) who went down the 'Bret Weinstein' anti-vax path, and is now a RFK supporter. Anyone who listens to that podcast are likely supporters of RFK. Many Joe Rogan listeners as well, since he pushed a lot of anti-vax shit.

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

When your own family doesnt support you it might be time to give in

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

New Yorkers are smarter than that. They won't vote for politicians just because their dad has a bridge named after them, will they? Maybe we're lucky Ed Koch never had any kids....

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 months ago

Most won't — the idea with third party candidates is to peel off a handful of votes, thereby swinging the election.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

It will take more than a handful to flip NYS. Biden won last time by just under 2 million votes

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 months ago

Despite that one staffer's bombast, the place where RFK Jr matters is probably in the swing states, rather than NY. Siphoning off a percentage point more Biden voters than Trump voters in one of those would have a pretty meaningful impact.

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