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PC Master Race

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Results of the PCMR Name Change Survey (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by CatZoomies@lemmy.world to c/pcmasterrace@lemmy.world

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Hello PCMR community!

On July 13th, we asked the community for your opinion if you would like to change the name of this community.

Results of the Survey :

Yes - 28.1%
No - 71.9% (winner)

Of the 1,201 responses received, we as a community have democratically decided that we should not change the name from PC Master Race. I am grateful to our community for your input, as this was a difficult topic to navigate together.

If you would like to review the history of this, please check out this post here: https://lemmy.world/post/1430610

We'll pin this post for some time and then consider adding a bullet into the sidebar for this Community to help stave off further discussions around this topic as the community has already decided collectively.

Kind regards,

The Moderator Team

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EDIT 30-Aug-2023:

Due to some of the recent targeted attacks against Lemmy.world, I noticed that the image I shared with this post was purged from their servers.

Here's a new screenshot of the results for posterity: https://i.postimg.cc/jqNg5gWx/pcmrsurvey.png

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[–] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

What should you do if you are unhappy with the results of this survey?

I understand you are disappointed. This is how democratic decisions work, and is the reality of the situation.
My opinion here is for you to take a moment to look inward and decide for yourself how you want to proceed.
If the name of this community bothers you, my recommendation is to do the only thing you can do as a person: make a choice and opt out.
There are other communities you can join and collaborate in. You can always spin up a new community in the Fediverse, on any instance out there, and create new content to attract users.
However, if you are okay with accepting that the name of this community will not change, stay with us. We'd love to have you here.

Final notes to remember:

We are all gamers. We are all united by our varying levels of PC enthusiasm. Let's stay united in our hobbies, rather than allowing ourselves to become divided. Seems like these days there is so much division all across the world, all across social media, in our news, etc.
For all the evils out there in the world, this is a safe place for us.
Every person on this planet out there has a different opinion. Remember to be kind to others, even when no one is watching you.

[–] Sternout@feddit.de 23 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This is how democratic decisions work

the only thing you can do as a person: make a choice and opt out

This is wrong

A democratic decision doesn't make it just or moral. You always have a right to protest.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

And it's not just about what you have the "right" to do. You're capable of moves like maneuvering to take control of its parent instance, starting a new alternative community, lobbying real governments that wield hard power to brutally suppress anyone using a name involving "master race". Or buy up a bunch of PS5s and give them away to people who are on the fence about whether to get a console or PC.

Not that I want the name to change myself, but don't try to limit what our opponents can do about it. Who knows, maybe their practice here will give them experience that will help overthrowing other oppressive regimes.

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[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 237 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Folks seem to be missing why PCMR is even a thing. It is a tongue in cheek representation of PC users during the console brand fights of PS2/Xbox though PS4/Xbox One. The idea is that PC users sneer down on console users and don't see the precarious position we are in with our bloated upfront costs to entertainment.

It was never meant for a direct "PC is superior" idea - in fact it's making the statement that PC users are silly and take themselves too seriously.

[–] MolochAlter@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And even if it weren't, jokes are allowed to be edgy.

You can say fuck on the internet, as they say.

And I for one lived through enough of the 90s (all of 'em) that I don't care for this "must sanitize everything, think of the children" attitude just because it's suddenly coming from the left.

So yeah, fuck'em, communities are accountable to their members, not random mouthbreathers barging in demanding to be accommodated.

You wouldn't do it at your clubhouse and you shouldn't do it here, either.

[–] SgtAStrawberry@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Something I have really learned about the "sanitize everything, think of the children" types are that the huge majority dose not mean "protect the children" they mean "ban it for everyone, because I don't like it" and a lot of them don't even know what they want removed, they just looked at the cover and said "this is bad"

[–] MolochAlter@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Or worse yet, they do it to establish that they have the authority to decide what you get to read/watch/partake in/enjoy.

It's a pretty fucking naked powergrab when people like Jack Thompson campaign to get games banned for being obscene or "localizers" censor content because they claim the culture they are localising for finds it objectionable, when really it's just them, and the target demographic wouldn't care or worse would actively prefer the original interpretation.

I still remember the utter shitfit some outlets pitched for Dragon's Crown.

[–] ours@lemmy.film 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And over the last few years that upfront cost has gone up insanely between everything costing more during COVID and GPU pricing miking gamers first during the crypto craze and now with the AI one.

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Though, the insane scalping also shot PS5 prices stupid high too.

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[–] Nihilore@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

It was coined by Yahtzee as a way of making fun of PC elitists, we just took the joke and ran with it

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Seriously. It was a constant shitting on. Games would skip PC. Console gamers would brag about their Master Chiefs and Kratos. Hell, I remember we were even lower than Mobile Gaming during that era! Fucking Angry Birds and Candy Crush was more important than any PC game!

Then thanks to Steam and mods and indie games, we reign supreme. Companies came over in droves. I, a PC gamer, can finally play Halo and God of War and Sonic. Nintendo still holds out but that's okay.

So the master race was a joke, but also a rally cry for representation.

Rock paper shotgun used to have a tagline like "PC Gaming since 1873". I always love that tongue in cheek.

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[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

We are the master race. Bow before the PC.

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[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago (9 children)

We just want people to enjoy what they have, the best way they can.

Im fine with console gamers too. (I collect consoles, they are great!)

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[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 113 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Good for you, gamers. We programmers have lost the master branch forever.

[–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago (7 children)

This may be an unpopular opinion, but as someone who just started programming like 2 years ago, main makes more sense and is a more approachable name to me than master

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Going to change to anything that made sense in git, trunk would have made most sense (or something along those lines). Since your project can have many branches... Tree puns!

But changing it after the product was out was a dumb idea regardless of whatever makes sense and what doesn't. It was blatant pointless virtue signaling that broke some automation and makes a bunch of documentation needlessly confusing (someone just starting out and seeing main but the book they bought to learn says master... Now has to find out why).

Edit: my terrible spelling and grammar

[–] elephantium@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago (5 children)

pointless virtue signaling

What do we want? An end to blatant racist murders by police!

What do we get? Rename our git branches!

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[–] elscallr@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The concept of a master branch reaches back to CVS (that's Concurrent Version System, not a pharmacy), and Subversion. Makes sense it wouldn't make sense to you. Frankly it doesn't make sense to git at all, but that's a much larger discussion.

[–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The concept of a "master copy" has been around and in widespread use for around a century. It has nothing to do with either software nor social (in)justice. It's just the thing you photocopy so you don't end up making photocopies of photocopies. IMO It should make sense to anyone who, you know, has seen and used paper within their lifespan.

Some terminology, like "master and slave" for IO between devices, did always used to make me really uncomfortable whenever I heard it. But the branch name for software was probably fine.

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[–] smokedclover@feddit.de 111 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

PC Monetary Regret

[–] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oof I felt this one. But at least with my "investment" I can get all the frames on Stardew Valley.

[–] 567PrimeMover@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

picking parsnips at 9000 fps never felt so good

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[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 99 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Unlike dodgy racial theories, the superiority of PCs over console plebs and iToddlers is an unmutable physical, psychological and metaphysical fact of the universe. No, I am not being ironic.

[–] eg_taco@lemm.ee 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

unmutable

Is that like when you hear something and you realize you can’t mute it? Or did you mean immutable?

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 28 points 1 year ago

How do you know someone is a PC gamer?

You don’t need to ask, and you can’t even mute them. You’ll hear about it soon enough.

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[–] Disgusted_Tadpole@lemmy.ml 79 points 1 year ago

The fact this poll was necessary makes me really sad

[–] Dettweiler42@lemmyonline.com 78 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For all the people that don't understand where there name of the community came from, here is the video that started it all: https://youtu.be/P0dXtOVi2yo?si=Vlxetg3tmkjWGE70

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[–] Holodeck_Moriarty@lemm.ee 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love democracy

[–] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Senator Palpatine intensifies

[–] AbsolutelyNotCats 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn I missed it. Glad most of us (more precisely 71.9% of us) have good taste.

Long live PCMR

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[–] coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So no PCübermachines?

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I put together a server once as a favor for someone at a university. This person didn't know how to change the hostname so I set it to "killbot9000". For years that whole lab had to log into killbot9000. (I'm sure they could have figured out how to change the name if they tried - I guess they thought it was funny too.)

Anyway my point is that I should have called it "ubermachine" and now I will live with this regret for the rest of my life.

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[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

MEHRZWECKCOMPUTERÜBERMENSCH, bitte.

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[–] DrownedAxolotl@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

My God, this is still going on. I'm still having trouble comprehending whether this is just a very elaborate parody. The term "master race" is not in any way offensive and even if it is (to a small amount of people) they are perfectly within their right to be offended, but not to ban other people from using it.

[–] sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Have not been there to see the discussion, but I have been seeing the shift the last couple years in tech on termonology.

Branch Names: master -> main

Distributed Systems: master/slave -> primary/secondary

Security: Blacklist/Whitelist -> Blocklist/Allowlist

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[–] regalia@literature.cafe 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

We need something more humble, like PC god mode

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