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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by Philosoraptor@hexbear.net to c/the_dunk_tank@hexbear.net

Also, the US showed nothing but kindness to their enemies. amerikkka-clap

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[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 103 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Stalin, who lead a nuclear power, certainly would have nuked his enemies with said nukesso-true

[-] axont@hexbear.net 32 points 7 months ago

I think Musk's three brain cells are saying in a counterexample where the USSR produced nukes first. The first successful atomic detonation in the USSR was all the way in 1949, which was 4 years after the Americans had theirs. So there was already a deterrent in place.

Although the other counterexample you could say is that the USSR didn't firebomb anyone, only the Allies and Nazis did that. Firebombing was just as bad if not worse than the atom bombs and the Soviets never used it as a show of force. In fact, the Soviets didn't bomb anyone during WW2 because they didn't have tactical bombing aircraft until after the war.

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 81 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

HE'S SO FUCKING IGNORANT :stalin-stressed:

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 57 points 7 months ago

He literally made all his money working 1,000,000,000,000 times harder than his lazy employees and you loony leftists hate him for it. Typical.

[-] davel@hexbear.net 47 points 7 months ago

He’s not especially bright nor informed, but he’s also a nepo baby of oligarchy and has been a constituent of the military-intelligence-industrial complex for decades. It’s hard to tell what he’s saying that he actually believes vs what he’s saying to propagandize, and I don’t bother trying to differentiate the two.

[-] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 46 points 7 months ago

Yeah it's really incredible

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 81 points 7 months ago

the US poured capital into Europe and Japan both to weaken communist movements and to create markets for American goods, there was no altruism involved

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 14 points 7 months ago

He might have a point about the US having too much empathy for Nazis in Germany though.

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 72 points 7 months ago

Lmao this motherfucker has a child's understanding of history

[-] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 44 points 7 months ago

But anything but STEM is an inefficient waste of education time!

[-] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 47 points 7 months ago

He has a child’s understanding of STEM too

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago

Most children are fairly quick to realise that the spaceships they draw can't actually be built.

[-] AcidLeaves@hexbear.net 23 points 7 months ago

Children have a better understanding of history than this

He has an American's understanding of history

[-] axont@hexbear.net 18 points 7 months ago

Elon Musk is amazing in that to be the perfect American he had to be born and raised in apartheid South Africa.

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 67 points 7 months ago

I was pretty dead set against using nukes before reading this, but hear me out.

what if we launch Elon into space in some kind of spaceship, and then we go around with each country taking turns to try and hit his ship with a nuke. the propulsion of his ship would be controlled by the next country in line to take a ahot, but it's ultimately not very maneuverable and there are overrides to keep it in orbit.

whichever country succeeds, they receive the title of Most Hilarious Nation. and each year, we do this to the richest person on the planet.

so, this is a way to get rid of nukes and absolutely irredeemable shitheads, the enemies of all humanity.

[-] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 21 points 7 months ago
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[-] flan@hexbear.net 58 points 7 months ago

What makes him think that America didn't subjugate the rest of the world? What does he think is going on right now?

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 39 points 7 months ago

Rebuilding an area you conquered and annexed so that you can use them as auxiliaries and proxies is an age old tactic of empires. The USA wasn’t rebuilding Germany or Japan out of charity, they were being built into war machines to fight the communists

[-] axont@hexbear.net 17 points 7 months ago

Yeah, Japan was a client state of the USA until the Plaza accords where the west tanked the yen on purpose. Same thing with South Korea.

[-] RedQuestionAsker2@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago

What was the Korean version? How did the US make it tank?

Was the Asian Tigers burst also orchestrated?

[-] axont@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

I just meant that South Korea used to be an American client state. I guess it still is.

[-] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 34 points 7 months ago

Exporting the light of freedom and capitalism

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 17 points 7 months ago

Are the free people in the room with us right now?

[-] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 22 points 7 months ago

No no, the free people are in the secret room below Omelas having a wonderful time not alienated or tortured.

[-] Staines@hexbear.net 52 points 7 months ago

Fun fact, Stalin was the leader of the USSR during the Korean war, when the USSR had nukes.

Maybe this was the only thing that deterred the US, the only country ever to have used nukes in war, from general MacArthur's well documented nuclear genocide planning.

[-] Hexbear2@hexbear.net 51 points 7 months ago

He's wrong. The U.S. was full of genocidal maniacs in the military leadership and Presidency throughout the cold war. In fact, War criminal Eisenhower threatened to nuke China in the first Taiwan Straight Crises, which led to China building their own nuclear weapons to avoid being pushed around, making the world that much less safe. If you really want to know how bad things were, the leaked Pentagon papers is a good place to start.

It's a miracle that we didn't have a world-ending nuclear holocaust.

[-] SwitchyWitchyandBitchy@hexbear.net 27 points 7 months ago

He's not just wrong, he's wrong on almost every level imaginable. From claiming Stalin couldn't have nuked us, to assuming that the US helped Germany and Japan out of empathy.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 39 points 7 months ago

Translation: "My yakubian demon brain keeps telling me to nuke the entire species to extinction because I think it would be funny, but I'm just intelligent enough to realize China has nukes and will blow me up too."

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 36 points 7 months ago

I highly doubt Stalin would've used nukes for anything except the worse case scenario.

[-] Staines@hexbear.net 13 points 7 months ago

The Soviet Union had nukes for a few years before Stalin died.

[-] yuli@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

true, although in this hypothetical the ussr would’ve been the sole nuclear superpower right?

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 7 months ago

Never before i wanted to beat someone in the head with a book like after readin this tweet.

[-] axont@hexbear.net 34 points 7 months ago

My understanding is the USA could have produced maybe 9 nuclear bombs per year in 1945 and some of them would possibly be duds. The plutonium production just wasn't there.

America's strength after slaughtering innocent people in Japan was no other country quite knew how much plutonium America could produce, or how many bombs had been manufactured. The two dropped on Japan were the only two America had. Eisenhower had wanted to immediately nuke Moscow, but what would that have really done? I don't know if that would have resulted in complete American domination, it probably would have led to complete global panic, including panic within the USA. There would have been immediate widespread terrorism throughout the world probably. It's hard for me to imagine what kind of world that would have been because of how unstable it would be. No one would trust the USA. One of the western countries like the UK or France or something might try assassinating Truman, or stealing nuke design documents. It wouldn't have been normal. Whatever was left of the USSR would have possibly tried a hot war with the US, and how would that have gone down? Imagine exactly one US city getting firebombed. Imagine San Fransisco getting bombed. Would Americans in 1945 just deal with it because there's a war now? I doubt it.

This also makes no sense because Stalin did rebuild eastern Europe after WW2.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 31 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Lmao the Americans only went to war with those fascists out of inconvenience, they were all too willing to fund and back fascists to defeat communists.

[-] invo_rt@hexbear.net 30 points 7 months ago

Stalin, upon realizing he shouldn't have stopped in Berlin stalin-stressed

[-] muddi@hexbear.net 27 points 7 months ago

He's a capitalist, he should know buying out competition would be preferable to destroying them and letting the capital go to waste

[-] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 20 points 7 months ago

Lighting all of the capital on earth aflame but it's ok because the utility I personally receive from this is greater than the amount every other person on earth would be able to achieve by continuing to live.

[-] MineDayOff@hexbear.net 20 points 7 months ago

This man's brain is a hard boiled egg

[-] buh@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago

He doesn't just look and act like a goofy cartoon villain, he has the mind of one as well

[-] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 17 points 7 months ago
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[-] SnowySkyes@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago

I'm so glad this man doesn't have any direct power. I do hope he gets the King Charles power and dies soon.

[-] axont@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago

i'm very confused why all the Saudi monarchs who own his money haven't threatened to Khashoggi him

i don't understand how he turns a profit for them.

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[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 15 points 7 months ago

After the revolution Elon Musk will not be cuckpitted or sent to the gulag. No, a much worse faith awaits him, we will send him too school and he's only getting out when he has learned enough to be at the level you would expect from the average 18-year old

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago

I’m sure America did subjugate their enemies, given they are the only country to drop *two nuk—- oh Elon Musk is being a piece of shit again…

[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago

paper tiger

[-] JohannaChittarra@hexbear.net 11 points 7 months ago

He is just the most pathetic fascist, isn’t he?

[-] Juice@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago

We should have did the thing we did, instead we did the thing we didn't do. Weak!

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