Accidentally found myself on Lemmy.ml and yow (fedia.io)

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[-] Donnywholovedbowling@lemmy.world 47 points 5 months ago

How are things in China?

Can't complain!

[-] viking@infosec.pub 18 points 5 months ago

I know that's a pun, but I live in China and people complain here as much as anywhere in the world.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 25 points 5 months ago

I think they find a lot of stuff here surprising. My chinese friend was really shocked when they found out that you could just buy and own land, and it's yours.

[+] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com -15 points 5 months ago

Well kinda. You kinda still rent it from the government because you have to pay ~~protection money~~ tax on things to continue owning them or else the ~~mafia~~ government comes and takes it away.

[-] meat_popsicle@sh.itjust.works 22 points 5 months ago

Heavens, paying tax for services provided by the state, what a totalitarian nightmare. Fuck schools, clean water, street lighting, and disease vector abatement.

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 months ago

To be fair, property tax is pretty much bullshit. Had to move from my childhood home because they redid a mall nearby which raised property taxes in that neighbirhood so high my single mother couldn't afford it anymore. I mean, I get it, fuck us we're just people not "the masses," but it left a bad taste in my mouth for "pay me not to steal your shit" taxes.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 points 5 months ago

I think to survive in that situation they expect you to become a landlord and rent out your property, that's rough

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

... the fuck kind of mall was it to boost your property values that high?

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 months ago

Some stupid "open concept" thing with a french restaurant and a diamond store. Also we were/are on the lower income side of life which I get is our fault because she didn't finish college and I couldn't afford it and all that, but it does kinda suck.

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Nah man, isn't anyone's fault for not finishing college. No one 'deserves' to be poor, and college isn't for everyone - especially if your mom was already raising you at the time.

Just surprised. Highest property tax rates are around 2% in the US, at least - your house has to be worth quite a bit for that to even approach the average rent prices which would make a move financially reasonable.

Though that's as much a condemnation of the rent prices in this fucking country as anything, I suppose.

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago

I think it was more the "lot" than the house, we had the worst little one story house in the neighborhood, but I did love it. I think it was a fixed mortgage too, but she did own the house rather than rent. While she technically made a profit from the sale due to 20yr+ of living there, she had to take a downgrade on the living situation because other prices also rose, but her line of work is kind of localized so it's either that or a 2hr commute. I am moved out now anyway because this is america and so you're worthless as a man if you live with your mom (I know other countries consider multigenerational households the norm which honestly I wish we did too, but we don't), but it's still a bummer. The renters in the area had it happen too, just earlier, lost a few good friends that way actually.

[-] quindraco@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

Are you squints claiming land goes to school? Drinks water? Needs to see in the dark? Is worried about getting sick?

Because OP wasn'ts complaining about taxes in general, they were specifically complaining about real estate taxes.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Individuals owning large swaths of land and not doing anything with it is bad for both the economy and for social welfare. No one person needs to own hundreds of acres in the middle of a city. Property taxes prevent that from happening. Imo it should have a minimum amount of area before it gets taxed, to make life easier for small homeowners, but the rich dude who buys the lots next to his house so he doesn't have to live near neighbors? I'm fine with him having to pay extra for that.

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 17 points 5 months ago

On the upside, it's been a long while since I've seen anything more than stray tankies in World or Kbin!

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

This community is kinda dead, which is both good and bad.

[-] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I think they just went back to Reddit or defederated. I generally like speaking with people with opposing views (which is how my Discord server ended up being half filled with conservatives lol), but tankies and idpol warriors just will not even engage with you; they just talk past you at some invisible man they think pulls your strings, "you're all Russian bots" and the like.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 0 points 5 months ago

Yeah, tankies, well known for accusing people of being Russian bots.

[+] sordidone@c.im -35 points 5 months ago

@PugJesus 84% of the world population are tankies

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Wow, you guys should be running everything then, right?

EDIT: Guy is just a troll. Talking about vaccinations and autism.

[+] sordidone@c.im -15 points 5 months ago

@PugJesus Also Mexico should form a union with Canada and United States, AMLO being elevated to the role of God-Emperor.

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 9 points 5 months ago

I have no objection to that, other than that he'd need to take a stronger stand against the drug cartels.

[+] sordidone@c.im -12 points 5 months ago

@PugJesus The Mexican state itself needs more power and less subversion from US intelligence agencies + LEO + small arms manufacturers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal
The myth that fentanyl production comes from Chinese state and Mexican state collusion with criminals masks the origins of the opiate epidemic with western colonization of china. And the fentanyl trade being used to replace destroyed poppy fields after Chinese + golden triangle crackdowns, Taliban crackdowns, especially with the...

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 13 points 5 months ago

The myth that fentanyl production comes from Chinese state and Mexican state collusion with criminals masks the origins of the opiate epidemic with western colonization of china.

Jesus Christ.

[+] sordidone@c.im -15 points 5 months ago

@PugJesus Are you implying 16% of the world population should have hegemony over the rest? Well, since WWII we've seen the results of them attempting that. The world majority must govern the world in order to halt the overextraction+pollution which has resulted from Wall st placing entire nations in the role of debt slaves like Haiti. Even Europe is getting the stick since 2022, and they only just paid of Arsenal of Democracy debts. Face it, the world majority must govern the world.

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 18 points 5 months ago

Are you implying 16% of the world population should have hegemony over the rest?

Yeah, that's about the reading comprehension I expected from a tankie.

[-] bobburger@fedia.io 6 points 5 months ago

You must have a lot of strong opinions about the Belt and Road initiative since "debt slavery" is so important to you.

Also, how do you feel about 996 working hours?

[-] bobburger@fedia.io 6 points 5 months ago

84% is a very specific number, do you have a source for that?

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago

every time I go home to Wuhan and lose access to the basically the entire internet, I don't see any oppression at all!

[-] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago

It's not perfect, but overthrow would be far, far worse

These are the same people who look at flaws within the "imperial core" of western countries and conclude that the only thing that would stop their entire population from suffering under capitalism is complete overthrow of the government. Then they don't see the irony of making statements like "don't overthrow our government, chaos is so much worse"

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago

Yeah, why would people in a censorship-happy autocracy think the government does everything right, if it wasn't the absolute truth?

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I forgot to take the tankies seriously and now they're threatening to nuke 'the west'.

What's that you say? They've always wanted to kill every Westerner and it has nothing to do with politics or my stance/support?

Huh, weird!

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