LOL Isn't this what China was supposedly doing with TikTok?
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I was wondering why every second video I watch is just some guy reading Mao's Little Red Book and calling me a lib
Live!What China's supposedly doing with TikTok is owning a 1% stake in the private company that made it. Everything else is baseless speculation.
Every accusation is a confession
The effort, which began in 2019, has not previously been reported.
Source: Gallup
Hey that’s weird, opinion is mostly unchanged for like 30 years, then in 2018 it just becomes net positive, and then immediately after it unfavorability jumps sky-high. Surely just a coincidence.
Yup and this, even after Trump campaigned against China through 2015-16
Though I think this needs more analysis. I can think of at least one pandemic that was blamed on China in early 2020 which might be the actual start of the decline.
That would be my guess also, and is probably the simplest explanation. The US media beat the "Chinese virus" drum very, very hard and a lot of people still seem to believe that China is mostly to blame for COVID. It's at least possible that this was part of the same effort to discredit China both to the Chinese and to the world broadly, and that COVID was just a "happy" coincidence for the already existing propaganda campaign.
post 2020 its not that surprising: covid happened.
I think the Uyghur accusations played a pretty huge role though, there is no legitimate reason for that huge decline in 2019.
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This sucks so much that propaganda is so effective on people in the US. Like, I know 
but I would still hope that sentiment isn't that malleable over a couple years. 
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thats wild, holy shit
Is this a poll of Americans? I don't think Chinese people have an approval rate of 15% of their own country.
The reported CIA activity occurred in China.
It is a poll of Americans, yes. I did see that the CIA activity occurred in China and I get what you're saying, I just refuse to believe that the goal was only to cause internal chaos in China.
1000% its a limited hangout. There's definitely been an ongoing social media campaign to prime the pump for escalating tensions with China.
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He's a what? he's a what?
He's a newspaper man
And he gets his best ideas
From a newspaper stand;
From his boots to his pants
To his comments and his rants
He knows that any little article will do!
Russia and China have troll farms. America has teams of operatives.
2019 is the year the Winnie the Pooh shit started.
Call me crazy but I have never thought that shit was organic "from Chinese people on their internet". This makes me even more suspicious about its origins.
There was a meme passed around on Weibo, but it wasn't the same meme the west uses at all, and wasn't even censored to my knowledge. The west just made up a story whole cloth about Xi Jinping banning Winnie the Pooh and just expected people to never fact check it (they didn't.) I think it may have been a kind of "testing the waters" thing, they wanted to see how much they could get away with, they started pushing the Xinjiang stuff much more heavily shortly after, so it's likely they were seeing if people would believe an obvious and easily disprovable lie before moving onto their big lie.
According to the KYM research the meme heavily predates 2019, however it does mention a 2019 "resurgence".
This resurgence is where the cia lies imo.
Yeah, they rarely make things up by themselves, they just take existing shitty ideas that serve their purposes and give them a megaphone. That way it gives them plausible deniability.
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It's worth noting that this wouldn't be necessary if the government of China didn't have broad support and legitimacy.
Also classic buying their own bullshit.
They convinced themselves "influencing" enough people to vote against their own self interests by posting a handful of racist facebook memes was actually some brilliant espionage move and thought they could do the same.
Only works if your population is stupid and ignorant to be predictably influenced by mispelled racist memes.
This is my new response to someone calling me a wumao.
Dumbass Chinese liberals ate it up too. Right-Wing west fetishists are lower than worms.
Shanghai syndrome
How much of the so-called "authoritarianism" of communism would cease to exist if capitalism simply...allowed other economic systems to coexist?
All of it, but if capitalism allowed socialism to flourish without constantly trying to destroy it, the people in capitalist countries would see how much better socialism is and revolt.
If that is the case, then it's funny how unaware capitalists are about how well-propagandized the west is.
That's the other half of them ensuring a revolution doesn't happen. Constant propaganda about how evil socialism is. But that only works when they can point to "surveillance states" and militarisation of socialist countries, when they can point to socialist nations being poor and struggling. It's hard to propagandise people if the socialist nations are clearly doing far better than any capitalist ones.
It can’t though. It’s in the nature of capitalism to squeeze out any other mode of production. Even without overt sabotage. It’s like how it’s almost impossible for a developing nation to industrialize unless they basically ban imports.
I decided to see what the sinophobic den of 
has to say about this, and unsurprisingly most of the libs there try to act like it's nothing, and totally normal. (Except when Russia or China does it in their eyes, then it's bad) On r/neoliberal they're more concerned about this being public than the actual operation itself. I saw them calling it an "extremely uncommon Trump W". No surprise there, I suppose. Despite their theatrical opposition to Trump, they support all this sort of scummy shit, as long as it's done silently in the background and with a dose of decorum. Fucking scumbags. 
Love when people bring up "Russian interfearance" as if it's some act of war.
I always ask them if Russia published an article of Time magazine bragging about how they influenced the american election for a more favorable outcome for them because if not they did less then us.
Then they call that whataboutism because hypocrisy is fine as long as you come up with a different name for it.
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Always a self admission when US officials accuse other states of trying to influence the American state through media
Looks like a classic case of accuse others that which you are guilty of wrt TikTok.
the west attacks you and calls your self-defense authoritarianism
And some dumb libs fell for it. I'd bet a lot of this was also pushed on Western social media too, where it would have the greatest effect on the more rabidly pro-war, anti-Chinese racists.
I fucking hate America.
Prager and the DOD have accounts on Chinese social media lol
I just realized something I hadn't really consciously thought about before in regards to how believable articles are when their sources are "confidential" and "intelligence officials" etc.
I have no problem believing an article like this at all even with no hard source, but I immediately discard reports that put the US in a positive light with the same lack of hard sources.
Then I thought "well that's not really fair, I shouldn't just believe this either then". Shortly after that though, I realized that if someone were publishing material AGAINST the US or its allies' interests then they're taking a big risk and they MUST have some sort of credible source or sources, whereas if they're just being a propaganda mouthpiece there's no risk to their sources being complete shit or even non-existent.
So while the article could be just as much bullshit as any other, it's less likely in my opinion, because there is a risk to publishing completely false information based on shadowy or non-existent sources.
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