I just want to remind everyone that Mark Bankston was one of the litigators during Alex Jones' civil suit. And he won that case with a 1.5B$ judgement in favor of the Sandy Hook parents. I suggest everyone get a metric fuckton of popcorn if he brings a case against Musk.
Why is everyone putting $ at the end now?
I’ve seen it this way for folks that are from Europe.
It's the French way to do it, not sure about the others.
Seems to be a pretty common thing all around Europe. It's how we use € here in the Nordics too
Dutch spell euro in front of amount, but say amount in front of euro.
You don’t say dollars 1.5 billion, or pesos 1.5 billion, or yuan 1.5 billion.
It actually makes more sense linguistically for it to follow than come before the amount.
This is why I always find it a joy to use the % sign, it just makes sense how you read 10% as ten percent.
There should be a petition for it to be written %10 in the US.
It’s funny that you listed pesos, because Spanish adds ¿ before questions, sort of like an opening quotation mark. So the reader knows it’s a question right at the beginning, instead of getting all the way to the end of the sentence. I’d argue that adding the currency symbol before the number informs the reader that the following number will be a currency amount. Potentially handy when you’re dealing with multiple kinds of numbers at the same time.
I would argue that for that to make a lick of sense we would also be saying cows 100k, sheep 1.2m.
So not handy at all when it’s the only outlier.
Not sure why something has to extrapolate to every context you can think of in order to make a lick of sense, especially when talking about language and writing systems, which almost always have exceptions.
Maybe that’s the problem, there should be a rhyme or reason so it avoids confusion.
It’s weird people are advocating for random arbitrary rules instead of pushing for something cohesive and makes sense….
Because it's in dollars, maybe?
In English its standard to write it as $1.5B. You could be from Quebec or Europe? But then I might expect 1,5B$. Shrug.
European. Noggie, to be specific. I've given up on remembering which to use as decimal point when typing english, but context usually makes it clear.
Noggie = Norwegian?
Yes, but I heard somewhere recently that it's (mildly) derogatory. I guess that's our N-word. It's only offensive if you say it.
It's supposed to go before the number, not after. It should have been written $1.5B. The British do the same thing with the pound.
And Musk actually has the money to pay a judgment of that size.
I was coming here to post the same thing. He's been a guest on the Knowledge Fight podcast a few times and is an absolute delight to listen to.
Oh I hope he learned how use gummy worms
Fun fact: slander is spoken, libel is written.
So Musk didn't slander the innocent man, he made a libelous accusation against an innocent man.
The good part? Legally, there's absolutely no difference so I hope this poor guy's client wipes the floor with Musk.
"That's ridiculous, slander is spoken, libel is written!"
There's no legal distinction, it's only defamation.
Fun fact. At least through the early 1800s, the First Amendment did not protect you from criminal defamation no matter how truthful your words were.
People v Croswell. A reporter, Croswell, discovered that Jefferson was paying a reporter to attack Adams and call Washington a traitor. He wrote an article on it.
Jefferson pressured the NY AG to bring forward charges of defamation. Croswell argued in court that he could not be defaming Jefferson because he had proof the actions occurred. The Court ordered the jury to only base their opinions on whether or not the statements were published. They found him guilty.
He appealed to the NY SC, this time with Hamilton representing him. Hamilton argued that the truth should always be an absolute defense against defamation. After all, it can't be defamation if it's factual. They ruled against him as well.
He appealed to the SCOTUS. Hamilton presented the same arguments: what Croswell wrote were facts, he could prove they were facts, and defamation should only apply to lies. They were split 2-2 which upheld his sentence and de facto prevented truth from applying as a defense to defamation.
While many states enacted laws providing truth as an absolute defense, it wasn't until over a century later that the Constitutional opinion changed and allowed the defense.
I'm pretty sure he was making a movie reference as a joke
It’s wild that the trumposphere’s pathological need to lie about everything has resulted in Slander going from a seldom used and rarely advisable civil charge to file, to a completely normal and reasonable mitigating action to take against one entire half of our political system.
Tangential as well, Mark Bankston was one of the prosecuting attorneys in Alex Jones' TX trial for his slander and libel ('cause he definitely did both) of the families of Sandy Hook victims. So on top of dunking on Musk, he's also a good attorney? Seems like a pretty cool dude.
I've met quite a few attorneys lately and it has really changed my opinion to something other than the American public default of "scum sucking lawyers". In fact, the only attorney I've met that actually is a scum sucking piece of shit is a city manager. The other private attorneys are all awesome and do a fair bit of pro bono work.
In this particular context, I meant "successful and capable" when I said "good". But I agree with your point generally: people are often less shitty than the stereotypes about them.
Fuck the police.
Tangental, but who needs deepfakes when a bit of old school Photoshop is misleading enough.
This is a slam dunk lawsuit.
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