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Cruise robotaxi finds itself stuck in wet concrete in San Francisco (www.teslarati.com)

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[-] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago

We’re going to see driverless cars failing all sorts of edge cases for decades…

[-] prorester@kbin.social 45 points 1 year ago

This is only news because it's an AI car. Were it a human, it would be a youtube video with a title "stupid drivers". Nobody would be calling to "regulate human drivers" or "ban all human drivers from driving cars".

[-] Lawdoggo@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Considering the source, this is only news because it’s not a Tesla.

[-] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

This is only news because it's an AI car. Were it a human,

It was mainly a driverless car.

Were it a driverless car without AI, the news would be the same.

[-] maporita@unilem.org -3 points 1 year ago

Also once an AI car is taught it will never do this again . Human drivers will keep on doing this.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

The driverless car will plow into cement willingly, as long as it's a slightly different shade of grey. The human will be distracted by the orange man waving the sign and think "what are the chances I drive into cement again?"

The only way to fix this is to fine the driverless car company every time. Hold them liable and take away their license. Suspend the driverless car program every time something bad happens. Those VC morons will fix every issue in like 2 weeks.

[-] narp@feddit.de 39 points 1 year ago

How human of them.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

No news on whether or not the construction zone was properly cordoned off, of course. It's not like we haven't seen plenty of people do this.

[-] silvercove 20 points 1 year ago

Did human drivers get stuck in the same concrete? Or did they manage to avoid it.

[-] prorester@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

In the cases where there are no AI cars but humans getting stuck in the concrete does that mean we should ban all humans from driving cars?

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 5 points 1 year ago

The FuckCars crowd:

[-] silvercove 2 points 1 year ago

Are human drivers getting stuck in concrete?

[-] crossmr@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PCO1QlvK0o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfUiOAXrWJ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIgNwcopamo

https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/woman-drives-wet-concrete-video/

https://www.cleveland19.com/story/38271183/car-gets-stuck-in-wet-concrete-in-downtown-cleveland-driver-laughs-it-off-videophotos/

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[-] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 26 points 1 year ago

That looks like a badly secured construction zone to me. Stuff like this certainly happens to human drivers.

[-] CarlosCheddar@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah unless the car went blasting through a barrier I’m not sure we can blame “AI” on this one.

[+] sky@codesink.io -7 points 1 year ago

The whole point is being better than a human and they’re demonstrably not.

[-] joe@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

they’re demonstrably not

Wait.. how did you arrive at this conclusion? Humans do this kind of thing all the time, too. You'd have to know the relative rates of accidents and mishaps to say with any confidence that they're "demonstrably" not better than humans.

[-] nous@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

Why look at overall statistics when you can cherry pick single instances to prove your point. /s

[-] tillimarleen@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

well, they should have posted a link to the Cruise Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruise_(autonomous_vehicle) because what I read from regulation and incidents proves his point. The city requesting no expansion to permits, 39 incidents between January and June 2023 blocking fire department operations alone. And that is just within their limited time permits.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I knew this shit would happen... Elon pushes his shitty "self driving" cars that are years behind the others, and people are now conflating that garbage with high-end, well researched and tested self-driving vehicles.

Most of these alternatives do amazingly well. No idea on this one, though, admittedly. I've never heard of it.

[-] sky@codesink.io 2 points 1 year ago

They don’t do amazingly well. Cruise literally ran into the back of a bus. The car has five LiDAR sensors, twenty-one radars, and twelve cameras and can’t see a bus?

They’re constantly stopping in the middle of the streets and struggling with scenarios regular drivers don’t have an issue with. First Responders hate them because they’re constantly in the way with no way to disable them.

They have to route around left turns because they’re too hard (and have caused a couple collisions), so it takes an incredible amount of time to get anywhere compared to literally any other method of transport. Not to mention that they’re testing them in cities that actually have decent transit! Just get on a bus!!

Anyone working on AVs in the US has a long way to go, I haven’t followed international companies as closely. Blame Elon all you want, not a single company has actually managed to make a safe and useful product.

I know a lot of people (myself included!) want this technology to exist and be useful, but we may need to start thinking about what we do if it isn't achievable. Allowing public development of these is a nuisance.

[-] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I would love to know who's going to pay for that in the end!

[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

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