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Someone needs to be reminded that anticompetitive practices are illegal (feddit.de)

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[-] ptz@dubvee.org 269 points 3 months ago

Save us, EU. You're our only hope. Sincerely, USA

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 135 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This keeps happening—can you lot make some laws for a change?

Edit: oh wait not like that

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 71 points 3 months ago

It's cool I fixed it now.

America, moments after outlawing IVF

Just as an aside, I'm an American that emigrated to Canada. My province (BC) is currently passing a law to make one attempt at IVF free for everyone (starting midyear in 2025)... laws actually can be used for good.

[-] PoolloverNathan@programming.dev 41 points 3 months ago

In America, laws can also be used for good. Just not your good.

[-] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Yeah this is cool and all but how can it benefit the wealthiest people in the country more? ✊💦✊💦

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[-] dan@upvote.au 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

California tries its best... There's a bunch of pro-consumer laws that other states don't have. There's the CCPA which is similar to GDPR (including the right to know and the right to be forgotten). You must be able to cancel a service easily online if you can sign up online. Store gift cards aren't allowed to have expiration dates. Gift cards with less than $10 on them must be redeemable for cash. Stricter laws against false advertising. And a bunch of other useful laws.

Not as good as the Australian Consumer Law, but better than pretty much every other US state.

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[-] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 37 points 3 months ago

Cries in britland

[-] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 17 points 3 months ago

You are welcome to rejoin

[-] HerrLewakaas@feddit.de 14 points 3 months ago

Actually probably not. Not without major concessions. The pound will have to go which they will never accept unless they have absolutely no other choice

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[-] joyjoy@lemm.ee 241 points 3 months ago

Nvidia: bans platform translation layers for CUDA

Meanwhile AMD: is forbidden from releasing an open source HDMI 2.1 driver supporting 4K@120hz because of HDMI Forums requirements.

[-] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 112 points 3 months ago

Oops. Someone hacked the server and now the code is leaked online. How terrible.

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 54 points 3 months ago

DisplayPort gang?

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 3 months ago

Sadly also not an open standard, in reality but they are friendlier to FOSS.

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[-] harmsy@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago

Accidental DisplayPort guy checking in. I didn't even know it was a thing until I bought my graphics card. It seems like I dummied my way into some good tech.

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[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago

Mindless fanboys: AmD aNd nVidIa aRe LitEralLy tHe sAme!

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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 178 points 3 months ago

These companies are wielding way too much power if they are not afraid to act like this in the open. Bring back making the board of executives and C Suites lives hell when a company so much as inconveniences you.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 80 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I want to see fines that have real teeth. No flat rates. Some defined amount per violation, in addition to forfeiture of all revenue derived from or connected to the violation(s). It might be complex to figure out what revenue that applies to inside a large corporation, so to help with the assessment you get a group of government auditors attached to your company for as long as the assessment takes. You pay their wages and provide them with whatever office space &etc they require, and they have a position on your executive board and full oversight of company operations until your debt to society is fully paid.

Regulatory violations should risk ending the company. If you can't run a profitable business legally then you shouldn't be running a business.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 43 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Personally, I think it would be easier for all involved to just fine based on a percentage of global annual revenue from the date of the violation to present. If they want personhood so bad, then they can have this too.

Edit for an example: let's say Intel does anticompetitive behavior 15 years ago and a court case finds them liable for damages today. Add up the last 15 years worth of global revenue, and take a percentage of that.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 32 points 3 months ago

Making it easy is precisely not the point. Having to deal with auditors combing through your accounting records and overseeing your operations until every dollar of illegally gained revenue is accounted for is the point.

The consequence should be onerous, cumbersome and embarrassing for the company.

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[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 70 points 3 months ago

Mandatory jail sentences would be ideal.

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[-] RustyNova@lemmy.world 95 points 3 months ago

Yeah fuck this.

... What's a translation layer?

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 98 points 3 months ago

In general, it translates instructions into something readable by whats accessing it. A popular translation layer on Lemmy is Proton. Its how the Steam Deck can play all those windows games.

[-] s12@sopuli.xyz 48 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Got a Windows app you want to run on Linux? Wine and Proton are well known translation layers.

I guess Graphics Cards are similar. CUDA is basically the NVIDIA equivalent of .exe I think.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 45 points 3 months ago

Cuda is an Nvidia specific method for using a graphics card to do computation (not just graphics), like physics simulations.

Translation layers would let you use software designed for other graphics cards to work with Cuda, or to let Cuda software work on other graphics cards

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[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 70 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

So a knife maker can now forbid me to cut chicken with it?

[-] sirico@feddit.uk 66 points 3 months ago

I give it about 10 years before the EU is invaded by the US after corporate lobbying

[-] scroll_responsibly@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 3 months ago

Or a couple of months if the EPP win the next EU elections.

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[-] optissima@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 months ago

Ahead of schedule!

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[-] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 62 points 3 months ago

Can a EULA ban fair use? Google v Oracle might have something to say about this.

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 29 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It can say whatever it wants unless invalidated by a court or an existing law saying otherwise.

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[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 21 points 3 months ago

Probably depends on your country's laws. Here in Estonia most EULAs aren't valid because pressing accept on those isn't legally binding.

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[-] hypertown@lemmy.world 60 points 3 months ago

If translation layer can be banned with EULA how is wine not dead yet? M$ loves Linux or what?

[-] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 39 points 3 months ago

MS loves money. If Linux makes them money, great. If not, fuck it.

[-] shankrabbit@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago

"...because it makes us money" could be put at the end of any slogan to make it 100% honest.

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[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

The EULA of the CUDA SDK bans reverse engineering output of the SDK to make translation layers (and such compatibility aids in general).

That makes it more legally dangerous and/or harder for devs. It has no effect on anyone not using the SDK.

[-] hypertown@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

How is that Nvidia can ban reverse engineering and for example Nintendo can't. I'm sure they would love to just say in EULA that sorry but reverse engineering Switch is prohibited therefore every emulator is illegal

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[-] MyNamesNotRobert@lemmynsfw.com 42 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This has been said time and time again but fuck Nvidia. Preventing compatibility layers ensures games and programs that need this stuff are extra unreliable, bloated and enshittified.

[-] mr_satan@monyet.cc 35 points 3 months ago

They can prohibit whatever they want, but how enforceable is it? Does Nvidia intend to play whack a mole by checking for translation layers?

[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Nah, they'll just pull "Nintendo move"

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[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 35 points 3 months ago

"How dare you use software on your hardware," says another worthless gaggle of bastard morons.

Just have Jensen Huang flop his dick out and say CUDA is an anti-competitive tactic. It wouldn't be less obvious.

[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 31 points 3 months ago

Now imagine Microsoft banning the translation of DirectX to Vulkan. Could they do that? That would kill gaming on Linux in a snap.

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