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Bradley Cooper is facing criticism for performing in “Jewface” after the release of the trailer for his biopic of Leonard Bernstein, which revealed the facial prosthetics he employed for the role.

Bernstein, the son of Jewish-Ukrainian immigrants to the US, was a hugely talented conductor and composer, best known for writing the music for West Side Story as well as composing three symphonies and becoming music director of the New York Philharmonic. Cooper, who directs, co-writes and stars in Maestro, is not Jewish, and can be seen in the trailer with a noticeably prominent fake nose opposite Carey Mulligan, who plays Bernstein’s wife Felicia Montealegre.

British actor and activist Tracy-Ann Obermann criticised Cooper on social media, writing: “If [Cooper] needs to wear a prosthetic nose then that is, to me and many others, the equivalent of Black-Face or Yellow-Face … if Bradley Cooper can’t [play the role] through the power or acting alone then don’t cast him – get a Jewish Actor.”

Obermann added, referencing Cooper’s performance on stage in 2014 as John Merrick in The Elephant Man: “Bradley Cooper managed to play the ELEPHANT MAN without a single prosthetic then he should be able to manage to play a Jewish man without one.”

The Hollywood Reporter’s chief TV critic Daniel Fienberg called the prosthetics “problematic” when photos from the set emerged in May, and subsequently described the film as “ethnic cosplay”.

In a statement posted on social media, Bernstein’s children Jamie, Alexander, and Nina defended Cooper, saying: “It breaks our hearts to see any misrepresentations or misunderstandings of [Cooper’s] efforts … Bradley chose to use makeup to amplify his resemblance, and we’re perfectly fine with that. We’re also certain that our dad would have been fine with it as well.”

The controversy follows objections to the casting of Cillian Murphy as nuclear physicist J Robert Oppenheimer – again, a non-Jewish actor playing a notable Jewish figure – in the biopic directed by Christopher Nolan, with David Baddiel describing such casting as “complacent” and “doubl[ing] down” on “Jewish erasure”. Baddiel also criticised the casting of Helen Mirren as Israeli prime minister Golda Meir, writing in the Guardian that “over a period of extreme intensification of the progressive conversation about representation and inclusion and microaggression and what is and isn’t offensive to minorities, one minority – Jews – has been routinely neglected”.

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[-] sab@kbin.social 67 points 11 months ago

In a statement posted on social media, Bernstein’s children Jamie, Alexander, and Nina defended Cooper, saying: “It breaks our hearts to see any misrepresentations or misunderstandings of [Cooper’s] efforts … Bradley chose to use makeup to amplify his resemblance, and we’re perfectly fine with that. We’re also certain that our dad would have been fine with it as well.”

There's plenty of anti-Semitism out there to feel outraged about. I see how it's more fun to get upset about stupid inconsequential shit, but let's not kid ourselves into believing that an actor wearing prosthetics to closer resemble the person he's portraying is even making it to the list of concerns facing Jewish communities.

In other news, that actor seems to have a very tiny nose.

[-] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 2 points 11 months ago

wow.. his nose IS tiny. How did I never notice this before? it's like freakishly small.

[-] GeoGio7@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

It's pretty long though just not very thick sigh

[-] jon 50 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If the dude had a big nose, then I wouldn't see the problem, but he didn't.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Except people don't know him as a younger person ... they know his appearence from when he was older. See, eg: Image search on duckduckgo for Leonard Bernstein.

So, if portraying a resemblance people recognise is an aim, and the film portrays an older Bernstein (I'm presuming it does) ... you're going to have the nose change size mid-movie? It could work, but in the context of a film which is short it could be even more jarring.

Even so ... Cooper's prosthetic nose does seem unnecessarily big/long ... so there might be something to this (though I think we tend to get outraged about things that are easy to get outraged about rather than the things that matter more).

[-] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 2 points 11 months ago

Let's be honest here: most general movie-goers don't know what Leonard Bernstain looked like, and most people who do probably wouldn't care.

[-] jon 1 points 11 months ago

The photo posted by the OP appears to be BC playing LB when he was a young man, hence I chose a photo of him when he was a similar-looking age.

Regardless, the cliche about Jews having unusually large noses is just an urban myth, and the makers of this film could have easily avoided the furore by not bothering with the prosthetics. What were they actually trying to achieve - did they think the audience might not know who he was without the big nose...? I don't know why film makers keep doing this - Nicole Kidman looked ridiculous with one as well. The only instance where it has been justified are the films based on the Cyrano de Bergerac story.

[-] GeoGio7@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Damn, then why do this??

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

He definitely did when he was older. It was not nearly as large when he was younger.

[-] livus@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

Not sure if this is true but I heard that our noses and ears keep growing throughout our lifetimes.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

No, that only happens when you keep poking a finger up there.

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[-] ZodiacSF1969@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago

Lol did you purposefully choose a photo of young Bernstein to rile people up? Because when I search for him, plenty of images of him as an older man who indeed had a larger nose come up.

[-] aaron_griffin@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah this is what I was thinking - if you look at the dude in profile, Bradley Cooper's natural nose is bigger. So wtf is this all about?

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 25 points 11 months ago

I think there's a big difference from "playing jewface" and simply using a minor bit of prosthetics and makeup to make an actor who already sorta resembles the real person they are portraying to look even more like that person. Are there any Jewish actors that look like Bernstein more than Cooper?

[-] handhookcardoor@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That’s pretty bad. An actor playing a Jewish figure isn’t the bad part, but the name of the movie, and the nose, this is like a Bojack Horseman background gag.

Edit: lmao, Ignore my comment, still weird to do the nose thing though

[-] NAS89@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago

you mentioned the name of the movie as an issue; to be clear, you didn’t take the article title to mean the movie is named “Jewface”, did you?

[-] handhookcardoor@lemmy.world 49 points 11 months ago

Oh my god

I’m an idiot, yeah, I totally did.

[-] Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca 13 points 11 months ago

I read it the same way. Don't feel bad.

[-] NAS89@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Haha, that’s great.

Coincidentally, if they did a Bradley Cooper movie named “Jewface”, people would be angrier about the title than they are his appearance.

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

I appreciate your honesty!

[-] victron@programming.dev 5 points 11 months ago

Lmao me too

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[-] Hank@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Is the movie about Al Pacino doing accounting?

Pulls out calculator "Say hello to my little friend!"

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

The movie isn’t called Jewface, it’s called Maestro. The post title is worded confusingly, though.

[-] handhookcardoor@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Thanks for the correction! I thought it was a pretty rough name for a movie, but I just assumed it was the title from a memoir about him!

[-] dan1101@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So much of Hollywood is run by Jews and so many Jews have portrayed gentiles, it's ironic they would object to gentiles playing Jews. The nose thing is a bit of a grey area, but Oppenheimers family seem ok with it for the sake of resemblance.

[-] swan_pr@lemmy.ca 13 points 11 months ago

Seriously, "Jewish erasure"? Come the fuck on.

[-] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

From Baddiel who wrote the screenplay for The Infidel (2010) which starred Omid Djalili (Iranian British) playing a Jewish character...

Pot kettle?

[-] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 5 points 11 months ago

I don’t think anyone has a problem with Jews playing gentiles or gentiles playing Jews. It’s that putting on a nose prosthetic is seen as trying to match a caricature that was used in antisemiric propaganda. The prosthetic appears to be more pronounced than the real nose he had, so it seems an odd choice. However, it seems earnest in seeking to portray him and the family are fine with it. I think it’s a mountain made out of a molehill, but I understand why the question is being asked.

[-] ZodiacSF1969@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

The Oppenheimer film didn't have a nose prosthetic.

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[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

LOL wtf ?

There's an uproar about a prosthetic nose? Are people offended by everything nowadays?

#NOSEGATE

[-] giacomo@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago

idk what the big deal is, it looks pretty real to me.

[-] niktemadur@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

One can easily imagine a myriad of hollow assholes opening their social media apps subconsciously going - "I'm bored with my meaningless self... let's see what I can be outraged about today... oooh, Speedy Gonzalez! Offensive! OFFENSIVE!" - with a certain level of glee, as they get to fondle their misguided sense of purity, their superiority, they can pontificate today to "all those little Latino people" about how to think, because the hollow virtue-signaling, manufactured-anger asshole knows better than ALL of them. Failing completely to see the irony.

Meanwhile, we in Mexico scratch our heads - nobody we know has ever been even remotely offended by Speedy Gonzalez - puzzled about how confused and angry so many of these strange white people are, twisting themselves into knots all by themselves and trying to drag us into their vortex of hot air drama, obsessed with the wrong things yet again... three or four times a week, it seems.

I mean... God forbid these people ever direct those "laser-guided powers of observation and critical skills" inward, amirite? That would require them... making an effort! (shudder)

[-] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

The prosthetic isn’t necessary at all but I don’t agree that only Jewish people should play Jewish characters…

[-] GeoGio7@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

This is so dumb he's literally trying to look more like the person he's portraying it has nothing to do with being Jewish.

Do they think they're gonna find a Jewish person who looks exactly like Bernstein? I'm all for appropriate casting and no race switching but please this is ridiculous.

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[-] Hank@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Would it be ok if a Jew was wearing a prosthetic nose?

For the sake of the argument: would it be ok if a black actor portrays a white actor doing blackface?

No of course I'm not serious.

[-] Very_Bad_Janet@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

Zoe Saldana portrayed Nina Simone in the movie Nina. She darkened her skin and wore a prosthetic nose for the role and some people found that controversial.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/06/entertainment/zoe-saldana-nina-simone-apology-scli-intl/index.html

[-] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

would it be ok if a black actor portrays a white actor doing blackface?

man if done correctly that could be a scream

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Is it just a black dude without any makeup, pretending to be a white dude with blackface makeup? Cuz that sounds like it could have been a great Chappelle show skit.

Or would it be like White Chicks?

[-] Hank@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

Remember Chappelle as a white news anchor? That'd be dope when a black guy in makeup like that puts on shoe polish.

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[-] Hank@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

Now that I think of it I'd like to see Jamie Foxx doing this. Maybe not movie length but it could be a nice sketch.

[-] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

haha he'd be perfect

I'm thinking he could replace Robert Downey Jr for Tropic Thunder 2.

[-] victron@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago

Holy shit, Tropic Thunder 2 needs to exist

[-] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This time it's about the making of a biopic about Kirk Lazarus, RDJ's character. In an ill-advised meta attempt to avoid the negative press of blackface that plagued Lazarus after playing Lincoln Osiris, a black actor is cast as Lazarus for the portion of the film about the filming of the original movie, but when the actor playing the "white" Lazarus spirals out of control, the "black" Lazarus is forced to take on the full role in order to keep the production from collapsing.

[-] victron@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

I can see the oscar nominations already.

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I’d be more concerned about the prosthetic fucking up his voice. In the trailer it sounds like he’s pinching his nose while he talks.

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[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Bradley Cooper is facing criticism for performing in “Jewface” after the release of the trailer for his biopic of Leonard Bernstein, which revealed the facial prosthetics he employed for the role.

Cooper, who directs, co-writes and stars in Maestro, is not Jewish, and can be seen in the trailer with a noticeably prominent fake nose opposite Carey Mulligan, who plays Bernstein’s wife Felicia Montealegre.

The Hollywood Reporter’s chief TV critic Daniel Fienberg called the prosthetics “problematic” when photos from the set emerged in May, and subsequently described the film as “ethnic cosplay”.

In a statement posted on social media, Bernstein’s children Jamie, Alexander, and Nina defended Cooper, saying: “It breaks our hearts to see any misrepresentations or misunderstandings of [Cooper’s] efforts … Bradley chose to use makeup to amplify his resemblance, and we’re perfectly fine with that.

The controversy follows objections to the casting of Cillian Murphy as nuclear physicist J Robert Oppenheimer – again, a non-Jewish actor playing a notable Jewish figure – in the biopic directed by Christopher Nolan, with David Baddiel describing such casting as “complacent” and “doubl[ing] down” on “Jewish erasure”.

Baddiel also criticised the casting of Helen Mirren as Israeli prime minister Golda Meir, writing in the Guardian that “over a period of extreme intensification of the progressive conversation about representation and inclusion and microaggression and what is and isn’t offensive to minorities, one minority – Jews – has been routinely neglected”.


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[-] wilberfan@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Nicole Kidman in THE HOURS (2002)

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