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An interesting question I've never seen answered is: how do ancaps propose to bring about their vision of society? It would require the overthrowing of the government and the destruction of all current corporations, but I have never once seen them call for revolution.

Now I'm an anarchocapitalist, I've always wanted to be a warlord

I'll just lie

4. is weird to me because it's patently not true in the vast majority of markets that even a large company would be "a drop in the ocean" compared to the remaining market. A handful of companies would be expected to pretty quickly own more collectively than their thousands of competitors, so one of those companies going "rogue" or a few of them forming a trust would most certainly not be "a drop in the ocean."

Lenin used publically-available statistics to demonstrate this in Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism, and wealth has only gotten more concentrated since then. Here's an example from that text, for those who are unfamiliar:

In Germany, for example, out of every 1,000 industrial enterprises, large enterprises, i.e., those employing more than 50 workers, numbered three in 1882, six in 1895 and nine in 1907; and out of every 100 workers employed, this group of enterprises employed 22, 30 and 37, respectively. Concentration of production, however, is much more intense than the concentration of workers, since labour in the large enterprises is much more productive. This is shown by the figures on steam-engines and electric motors. If we take what in Germany is called industry in the broad sense of the term, that is, including commerce, transport, etc., we get the following picture. Large-scale enterprises, 30,588 out of a total of 3,265,623, that is to say, 0.9 per cent. These enterprises employ 5,700,000 workers out of a total of 14,400,000, i.e., 39.4 per cent; they use 6,600,000 steam horse power out of a total of 8,800,000, i.e., 75.3 per cent, and 1,200,000 kilowatts of electricity out of a total of 1,500,000, i.e., 77.2 per cent.

Less than one-hundredth of the total number of enterprises utilise more than three-fourths of the total amount of steam and electric power! Two million nine hundred and seventy thousand small enterprises (employing up to five workers), constituting 91 per cent of the total, utilise only 7 per cent of the total amount of steam and electric power! Tens of thousands of huge enterprises are everything; millions of small ones are nothing.

Yeah... But what if like in magic: the gathering, specifically commander, they're literally too big to be crushed. People talk about "oh well if there's a super expensive deck the whole rest of the table can dogpile them" and it works okay-ish if their commander deck is modern lite, buuut what if it's more akin to a legacy deck. What then? Plus it's not like someone will disclose their deck cost, so what is to stop an anarchist capitalist firm that may or may not be dabbling in criminal activity from looking like a smol bean then quickly liquidating other firms that rise against it. This reads like someone who has never played poker with their cards hidden from the other players, like they were taught with cards face up to get the hang of things and never played again. Imo anyways. Also we've had two world wars what's to stop a third corporate one besides n.a.p. .

All company A has to do is ally itself with other companies that were on the bad end of judicial outcomes and claim the companies on the good end were cheating or colluding with each other, soon you'll have opposing alliances that don't recognize the judicial proceedings of the other alliances

Afterwards a sorting phenomenon will take place, where those "thousands of other security companies" have to pick between these opposing alliances otherwise they'll be blacklisted from all of them and locked out of judicial arbitration (or worse, have to pay a premium for arbitration)

Eventually the jurisdictions of these mutually exclusive judicial alliances will overlap in which case violence and warfare becomes inevitable

what normal person in the normal world could you even sell this ideology too?

you could create the most propaganda poisoned description of "le tankie authoritarian totalitarian socialist state" and it would sound less anxiety inducing and more stable to live under then this

i used to think it was a top down thing, the rich trying to force this down people's throats. but even they would be fucked in this system. most of them would prefer an easily controllable minarchist "night watchman" state to this insanity.

Amazon Security vs meemaw and pep pep’s private security contractors

Even if I take this at face value you have to wonder how come B and H don't have to honour their contracts with A.

Every instance of Anarcho-Capitalism or even just right libertarianism working in an example requires the AnCap society to like... Mind control people into behaving like robots programmed with legal code, never actual humans with interests, motivations, and social desires. I realise that we here on the left talk a lot about how to harness public energy, with wildly varying degrees of success, but holy shit are Ancaps on another level. At face value, they do not seem to know how people work, and seem to think they'd percolate up into a not crappy position where they're not instantly merked by a smarter-than-average charismatic mercenary. I have never met a fit one.

so just like capitalism, except corporations are even more autocratic 😂

Feel proud of myself for writing this exact societal formation into a story when I was a young dummy. I didn't connect it in my head to this ancap stuff back then, but it seemed appropriate to me that the drama would come from one group getting hungry and breaking the whole illusion of "mutually maintained order"

Monopolies don't exist under capitalism