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Atlantic Ocean circulation nearing ‘devastating’ tipping point, study finds (www.theguardian.com)
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[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 58 points 9 months ago

Just to be clear, we are well beyond the tipping point, have fallen off the cliff, and watching the Atlantic currents collapse is like seeing rocks hitting the ground before you do. "Oh, look, the ground approaches rapidly, and everything that hits it at this speed will be pulverized."

[-] xor@infosec.pub 29 points 9 months ago

global tipping point, yes, buy when the Atlantic Conveyor breaks down, that's very special tipping point that fucks up a lot of things severely and quickly...

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

Right, but calling it a tipping point implies we have a chance to prevent it.

Like in a movie where the bus is teetering on the edge of a cliff, and there's an anvil falling from the sky about to hit the back of the bus and knock it over the edge, you wouldn't say "Well the bus has almost reached its tipping point."

Or maybe a better analogy is a set of dominoes where you are looking at this one domino that knocks down the grand finale, but the dominoes leading to that one are already falling and have been for a long time. The collapse of the Atlantic conveyor is not the start of a chain reaction, it's just one really big link.

[-] Argonne@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

The Atlantic Conveyor will not stop. It will stop going to Europe though https://youtu.be/tnVWUIhQ8dE?si=3WHusDe8X3_Q35Ah

[-] oohgodyeah@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago

We are a plague on this blue ball spinning through space

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 16 points 9 months ago

Not really a problem for the blue ball though, they've been through worse.

[-] transientpunk@sh.itjust.works 15 points 9 months ago

We're really a plague on ourselves...

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's the end of the world as we know it.

[-] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

And IIIIIII feeeeeel crappy...

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Nah, we're definitely a plague to the biosphere. 150 species driven to extinction every single day due to anthropogenic climate change. 70% of all species since our first steps 250000 years ago.

Fuck humanity.

[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

A virus with shoes

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 4 points 9 months ago

Inanimate objects don't have problems. Not very insightful.

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 21 points 9 months ago

Maybe let's consider fixing the climate? Just a thought

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 24 points 9 months ago

But then a handful of very wealthy people would have slightly less money in the short term. So billions must die.

[-] d33pblu3g3n3@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

But what about the economy? The profits? The stock market?

/S

[-] thechadwick@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Will no one think of the quarterly earnings reports? What the hell is wrong with you people?

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 19 points 9 months ago

Not until any of this directly impacts people, like with famine, water scarcity, war, or panic from civilization collapse ... no one will care about what's going on with the world's oceans.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 18 points 9 months ago

And then they'll beg their leaders to do what can no longer be done. One of the reasons we're heading down a very bad timeline is that many people really don't seem to get the notion of a problem that must be fixed before its effects hit, and can't be fixed once the effects are felt.

[-] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Aren't people already begging leaders to help? But they're not listening?

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 months ago

It's just us regular people begging tho, so nobody listens.

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Maybe when one of Taylor Swift's vacation homes gets swept away we'll see some legislation passed about tires or some bullshit.

[-] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network -2 points 9 months ago

I just want to say, when I saw you were obsessed with Taylor Swift I immediately clicked to see if you’re a maga idiot. You do not disappoint at all.

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Lmao obsessed with Swift am I? Maga idiot? I'll send you $100 if you can find 5 comments with Taylor Swift's name in them or one positive comment about trump, in my post history.

You guys sure aren't big on reading.

[-] andrewta@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I just scrolled a long way back in your comment history and yeah I'm not sure where he's getting those ideas from.

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

There are stupid people on both sides of the aisle im afraid. Reactionaries Aplenty

[-] Augustiner@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

It already does. Just not so much in the countries that are most responsible for the pollution.

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago

Western nations will realize it soon enough.

“What surprised us was the rate at which tipping occurs,” said the paper’s lead author, René van Westen, of Utrecht University. “It will be devastating.”

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Isn't this one the one that when it's going we have livable temperatures in Europe and North America, but when it stops we get an ice age with glaciers and all that?

I wonder what the timeline is for something like that. Like how long between this current collapsing and glaciers making it to the great lakes?

[-] Argonne@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yes and no. It will have the greatest effect on the northern most counties like Sweden Finland Ireland, etc by at most 5-6C. France will be fine https://youtu.be/tnVWUIhQ8dE?si=3WHusDe8X3_Q35Ah

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Gotcha like always I am told that there is a problem coming but no one knows when exactly or how bad it will be or what I should do when it happens.

Yeps, life is good.

[-] Argonne@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Welcome to the real world. It's not a game and we don't know the answers. That's partly why religion exists

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Ah right on, thanks for this video. Seems it was referring to the same thing I was thinking of but the sources for that other thing were wrong.

[-] BloodSlut@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

🙃

[-] Argonne@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

There's lots of misinformation on this topic. Yes, this stopping would be bad for Europe but hardly any apocalypse scenario. Here a scientist break it down : https://youtu.be/tnVWUIhQ8dE?si=3WHusDe8X3_Q35Ah

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