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[-] MarcoPOLO@sh.itjust.works 29 points 9 months ago

The US wanted to strike Iranian targets without retaliation in order to not lose face globally. Tehran says no. If I were serving on a US military base in the Middle East, I'd be looking for ways to take leave because things are about to get hot.

[-] ganksy@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Why did the US want to strike Iranian targets?

[-] Montagge@kbin.earth 15 points 9 months ago

Iran is the world’s fifth most resource-rich country, with the second largest natural gas reserves and the fourth largest crude oil reserves, and with a total value of resources amounting to $27.3 trillion.

https://arabcenterdc.org/resource/iran-a-resource-rich-country-reeling-from-rampant-poverty/

[-] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

"In 1951, Mohammad Mosaddegh was elected Prime Minister of Iran, voted in by the legislature and confirmed by the Shah. Mosaddegh became enormously popular after he nationalized the oil industry of Iran, which had been largely controlled by foreign interests. He worked to weaken the monarchy of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi until Mosaddegh was removed in the 1953 Iranian coup d'état—initially an Anglo-American covert operation that marked the first time the United States had participated in an overthrow of a foreign government during the Cold War"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran#1951–1978:_Mosaddegh,_Mohammad_Reza_Pahlavi

There's a reason Iranians call the US The Great Satan.

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 9 months ago

To maintain their empire

[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Because Iran is resposible for the deaths of three US service members in Jordan and the wounding of dozens more.

Hitting Iran in Iran was never a likely scenario, though. The response will almost certainly be to Iran-aligned terrorist and/or militia groups outside of Iranian borders. There's a small chance that it will be to direct Iranian assets outside Iranian borders, but most people in the FA space don't think that this is going to happen, either.

[-] naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

To not lose face, didn't you read?

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Biden is groveling for israel there is no face to save

[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 11 points 9 months ago

I’m so glad my government was wise enough to make peace with Iran despite the US’s objection.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I honestly feel like Iran's proxies have more clout than Iran.

Hamas staged a losing war for a long period which is still going. Houthis disrupted world trade by targeting ships off coast.

Meanwhile Iran got harassed by Pakistan for using some light artillery on some probably random Balochis.

It doesn't really matter if they have the weapons when they can't really use them all that effectively themselves.

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 0 points 9 months ago

Well maybe they'll attack a us ship on their own next time instead of delegating their dirty work 🤷

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -1 points 9 months ago

Yes, because what the US needs right now is another hot war, it is wise to encourage escalation into a direct conflict with Iran.

You do understand that will just make the US empire crumble faster, right?

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 0 points 9 months ago

Sorry for wanting iran to make open moves instead of their usual paying other groups to do their dirty work.

I don't want another war, nobody does. These games that are being played aren't mine, I am just judging the players.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -1 points 9 months ago
[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 0 points 9 months ago

Idealist? Sure.

Accurate to how I feel about the situation? Also yes.

Why are you mad about what I want?

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -1 points 9 months ago

Because of the bloodthirstiness. You can conceptualize that actual people would die right? At much larger scales?

[-] Mango@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago

On one hand, we shouldn't be going around picking fights.

In the other hand, lol try us.

[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago
[-] Mango@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago
[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Ah. As a citizen of the US I dont use "we" and "us" when referring to the US state.

[-] Mango@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago
[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Because it is not necessarily great to subsume your identity to an empire

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

And that's what you've decided this is?

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

Why else would you speak of the US state as if you were a part of it, with "we" and "us"?

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Because I'm in it. What do you want from me?

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -2 points 9 months ago

You're in the US government?

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago
[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Lolol. No.

Not referring to when soldiers of our genocidal government is attacked as "an attack on us" is literally just not being a nationalist.

[-] Pili@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 9 months ago

It usually doesn't end well for you, when then try you.

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