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Like wow wtf, these incidents are really just endless, huh? I must've gone through hundreds of these now. It seems like it doesn't matter whether someone is an experienced scuba diver or not, these caves have a tendency to just fuck up your shit.

People who you could call not just world class divers, but world class cave divers apparently routinely enter these things en masse and are never seen alive again. Rescues are extremely rare because they tend to run out of air before anyone even realizes something went wrong. Then the only hope of retrieving the body is to fly in another world class cave diver, very likely a friend of the now rotting corpse floating in the cave. This isn't a very commonly practiced hobby as you can imagine.

Good chance this guy fucking dies in the cave too. At that point the property owner tends to just block off the entrance and let the two spend eternity together. It's very touching.

Most common scenario seems to be losing their guide rope back to the cave exit, accidentally stirring up previously pristine and undisturbed silt, reducing the visibility to literally 0, and then totally losing track of the claustrophobic passage that they originally shimmied through to get into that chamber. This is very obviously the perfect time to panic, hyperventilate away most of your air supply, and swim around wildly kicking up even more silt while trying to find the way out. Kind of like being stuck under a sheet of ice, but far worse because you probably still have something like 30 minutes left to think about the fact that no one can possibly rescue you in time.

I can't imagine being in this situation, what a shit way to go. I'd rather go fucking wing suiting than get anywhere near an underwater cave.

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[-] Huldra@hexbear.net 31 points 8 months ago

The math is just so against you I can't imagine risking it, you have to do it correctly every time, and if you do it incorrectly you now have to be perfect in a scenario that you make every attempt to avoid to start with, with an intensely fallible human body full of counterproductive instincts that take over when you panic.

There was a case in I think Croatia where they thought there had been a group conspiracy to commit a murder in a cave diving group cause someone went missing out of a group and was then found with a knife in his chest, then it turned out after investigating all possible scenarios that he most likely just did it to himself after he realized he fucked up and was going to suffocate or drown for certain.

[-] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 26 points 8 months ago

I would simply not die in a hole

[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago

just built different

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 23 points 8 months ago

I don't have claustrophobia but I know for a fact I would acquire it if I so much as snagged some clothes in a crawl-height cave

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 20 points 8 months ago

Cave diving has always struck me as a weird hobby because not only is it insanely high risk, it seems like insanely low reward, too. Great, you saw some rocks at the bottom of a pitch-black hole - doesn't seem to have the same thrill factor as skydiving and isn't as sexy as being a fighter jet test pilot. What evolutionary compulsion got twisted around enough to make you want to do this?

[-] GrumpigPoopBalls@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago

the pitch-black underwater cave combines a nostalgic yearning for the mineshafts of their youth and the comfort of the womb

[-] oregoncom@hexbear.net 1 points 8 months ago

The yakubians yearn for the caves.

[-] DayOfDoom@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago

Filling these caves in with bakelite under world communism.

[-] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 16 points 8 months ago

I’ve only been diving a couple times in my life and I think I’d snap if I was in a cave. I kept checking to make sure I knew where the surface was every now and then. I’d have to know I could swim up and make it to shore within a few hours or so worst case scenario to be ok with it. I’ve played enough subnautica smh

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago

I am large framed, have claustrophobia, don't like going very far underground, and despite being a very strong swimmer, I have profound submechanophobia and don't like "exploring" under water beyond a snorkel float observing something from a great distance.

Ive gone down some rabbit holes on this stuff too and I think underwater cave divers have some really intense Call of The Void type shit going on in their brains that I cannot engage.

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago

those probably fake signs on underwater caves like 'do it it'll be funny' are a fun idea though, critical support to mocking people making the most preventable mistake in the universe

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago

There are a very large number of things I'd rather not do such as free climbing the Burj Khalifa or boxing a grizzly bear and I'd still rather do those than cave diving.

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago

You think those are a trip look into free diving too. Once you get to 30m you become negatively buoyant and the ocean sucks you under 😵‍💫

[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

I respect the ocean by staying the fuck out of it

[-] artificialset@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago

absolute nightmare scenario. you'd think the stories would get around that community enough to stop people from these types of dives

[-] Mokey@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago

I would just not do this

[-] allthetimesivedied@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago

They literally have underwater signs with the image of a cartoon Grim Reaper telling you to fuck off from these things.

[-] TraumaDumpling@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago

tangentially related but those bulky deep sea diving hardsuits the navy has are super cool and i would jump at the chance to get in one and face poseidon's darkest realms if anyone but imperialist militaries and oil companies had them.

[-] oregoncom@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago

If mice had human minds there would be professional mousetrap explorers.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

I've done a little cave diving. Some of the coolest shit ive ever seen in my life. There are caves I would do again, and some I absolutely would not. Anytime you don't have a clear path to the surface it is butthole puckering for sure!

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