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submitted 5 months ago by QuantumEyetanglement to c/android

Looks like a bunch of features are being removed due to "underutilization"

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[-] glimse@lemmy.world 72 points 5 months ago

Google Assistant has become so awful in the past few years.

Ok Google, give me directions to John's house

"Ok, navigating you to John's Lake House Restaurant"

Bitch, I have a SAVED ADDRESS in Google Maps titled "John's House." Why would you not assume I wanted to go there instead of some restaurant 3 hours away?

[-] Norgur@kbin.social 28 points 5 months ago

Yeah, Like, we are facing a world where faking a celebrity's voice and having it respond to everything you say completely life-like is a matter of minutes while the "smart" speaker in your house talks like a robocall from the 90s and doesn't understand a single thing when you don't adhere to a very specific command syntax.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

OK Google, search for Asparagus and feta appetizer recipe

"I'm sorry, I don't know how to help with that" and then closes.

SHOW ME THE SEARCH RESULTS

[-] Norgur@kbin.social 13 points 5 months ago

Ok Google, switch off the TV.(that is in the same room as you in the Google home app)
“I’m sorry, I don’t know how to help with that”
Ok Google, switch off the TV in the living room
"There was a problem. Please try again in a few seconds"
Gnah! Ok Google, switch off the TV in the living room!!!
"Okay, 10h Video of switch off sounds is being played on the device 'bedroom'"
What. The. Fuck.?!

[-] Bigoldmustard@lemmy.zip 20 points 5 months ago

It’s no better with Siri.

An example:

“Hey Siri, play some Slayer on music”

“You’ll have to unlock your iPhone first”

Picks up phone to unlock with face unlock while driving so Siri will let me even use her.

“Hey siri play some slayer on Music”

“Sorry, there is no playlist called Slayer in your music library”

“Hey siri play some slayer from Apple Music”

“Okay, calling Sarah”

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[-] cafeinux@infosec.pub 16 points 5 months ago

The only use I have for Google Assistant is to call people when I'm in my car, and even then it doesn't work correctly.

  • "Call " -> Calls a business in a neighbouring country which happens to have the same (common) name as my wife.
  • "Call " -> Calls my wife.
  • "Call " -> Calls another business in the same neighbouring country which name contains my father's first and last name.
  • "Call " -> Calls my father.

Wtf really. Those two businesses must keep wondering who's that number that keeps calling them at absurd times from another country and never leaves a message, because I can never remember who I must use the full name of...

[-] Taniwha420@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Your Dad: Mr. Zealand. Mr. New Zealand.

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[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 12 points 5 months ago

I just asked that the other day to do what I would consider. One of the most basic tasks, add something to my shopping list. It didn't and I got to the store and it said I had no list, so I really don't know why I have them anymore except for speaker abilities

[-] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

This is fucking pathetic. I used to brag to people about how well Google Assistant worked on our Home's. My wife, who is not into tech in the slightest, would do the same.

Now it's gotten to the point where it can't do fucking jack shit right anymore. It fails to turn off lights. It can't figure out devices it's connected to, it can't get media requests right, it forgets the timers it's running, etc.

It's gone from a mediocre voice command interface, to an insanely impressive Google Now providing info before you think to ask for it, to an incredibly useful assistant that I can't think of anything it can't do.... To an inferior Siri that trips over itself left and right and can't respond to basic requests anymore.

A bunch of the things in the list of things being removed are things I used frequently like 6 years ago - I fucking bought a Home Hub because of the step by step recipes. I've stopped using them for the past 3-4 years because the thing can't even get a fucking timer right so why would I even bother asking it anything more complicated. They're removing them because "people aren't using them" but people aren't using them because Google fucking broke them or they didn't know they were there.

Google is a fucking clown show at this point. They can't get anything right without ram rodding it straight into oblivion and then killing it because no one's using it.

[-] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 60 points 5 months ago

Funny they didn't mention the 1000 people they laid off across the various Assistant divisions being a part of the reason for the changes : https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/11/24034124/google-layoffs-engineering-assistant-hardware

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 51 points 5 months ago

Wow, they're neutering it quite a bit. And sure, most of these were hyper-niche, but that's a long list of niche stuff to stop supporting.

[-] n2burns@lemmy.ca 32 points 5 months ago

Looking through that list, I kept saying to myself, "I didn't know Google Assistant could do that!" and in a few cases, "I tried to do that and it didn't work, so I assumed Google Assistant couldn't do that."

[-] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago

I recall some of these things being advertised as great news features for their marketing drives.

[-] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

They might have laid off or reassigned people tasked with maintaining these features

[-] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 41 points 5 months ago

Rescheduling an event in Google Calendar with your voice. You can still schedule a new event.

This feature is underutilized because I could never get it to work.

[-] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Half the things on this list are things that I used to use but they've broken in the past 3 years. Hell, it can't even get a fucking timer right anymore.

[-] zecg@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago

I'm looking forward to never using Google's next generation AI assistant just as much as I never used the last one.

[-] Dragonmind@lemm.ee 33 points 5 months ago

This company sucks. It's like they throw so many ideas and things at a wall and then never foster or care for any of it. And then they take away the wall so anything that relied on it gets fucked when the app isn't available or works correctly anymore. And this is CONSTANT!

They deserve each and every loss. Pretty sure the only new developments sticking around are the Google Pixel phones. Who knows, maybe they'll delete features for the old ones in the future too. Or remove support for their phones entirely and randomly leave.

[-] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 months ago

I use to hate Microsoft so much for this with their early hardware I used to buy.

They would abandoned the devices by not providing the drivers needed for newer versions of Windows leaving the device a brick unless you want to still run 98 or XP.

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 5 months ago

just bring back google now

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[-] tja@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I didn't even know that most of these were possible. Voice commands are not very discoverable.

I mostly use it to set a timer/an alarm or to put things on Google keep lists. For the alarm you have to be very specific or it can be an unexpected time. Putting things on lists works mostly just for my shipping list and even that has problems.

And if I now can't even easily access it I will probably not even use it for that

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Yep same. I set my alarm in the evening, I set a lot of timers while working in the kitchen, and I fill in my shopping list while going through stuff in the pantry.

Sometimes I let it play some background noise, pause/resume music or a video, and I have a routine that reminds me of things during work days. That's it. And it works well enough for that, but eh, still annoying that they now took both the smartness of Google Now and the sheer broad applicability of Assistant away.

[-] kib48@lemm.ee 16 points 5 months ago

it's just Google Voice Search with a fancy UI at this point

[-] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

It's crazy to me how it started that way, got way better, then they broke 90 percent of what it could do, and now we're back where we started like ten years ago.

[-] danhakimi@kbin.social 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I disabled the google app years ago. I use my browser for search, and then when I get the results, the results actually show in my browser, and I don't have to switch apps or anything to get to my browser.

Plus, I don't have to look at the vestiges of all the features the app used to have, which now just feel like they've left the UI cluttered and pointless.

Plus, every time I open the app, I feel like I'm being spied on, because I am.

Plus, Google Assistant sucks ass. The voice commands are super unreliable, and as for search, I don't want AI to guess what I'm trying to search for, deterministic imperative searches are actually better.

[-] thegreekgeek@midwest.social 4 points 5 months ago

That being said I wish android had a dedicated search browser similar to Google search app. I'm searching on my browser and I have soooooooooooo many open DDG tabs it's ridiculous. Nothing wild, just a searchbar with history that won't delete itself when I hit back too many times and a web view to open links.

[-] limecool@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

Hmm, maybe look into something like the duckduckgo app? Set it as a digital assistant in default apps and you can invoke it like you would Google assistant. You can also add a search widget to the homescreen and simply search.

[-] aniki@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago

Does anyone here ever use assistant for more than the basics? I find that I need to remember to be way too explicit and verbose which makes the whole thing useless, because it's not the way humans talk so by the time I remember how to say it the right way, I could have already entered it in manually. Eventually I just stopped trying.

[-] danhakimi@kbin.social 8 points 5 months ago

I found, ages ago, that I never used the google app for something I couldn't do in my browser. Like, this was back in the days just after Google Now died—all the features that almost worked just got scrapped because they really didn't work. It allowed me to keep up with one college sports team, but other than that, opening the app was just a slower version of opening up my firefox and searching there.

So that's what I do now. I disabled the Google app, and I don't miss it at all.

[-] n2burns@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago

It depends what you mean by "more than the basics." Some things I used to do which could be considered more complicated have already been handicapped (like using 3rd party services). Others aren't reliable so I stopped using them. Personally, I have no problem trying stuff out and speaking in the way the assistant understands, but there are very few complicated actions which are supported and reliable!

[-] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago

I have a few of these devices in my place as a part of my home automation. It's been struggling the last year with not confusing the basics and not mixing up the beginning of a news podcast as my voice commands. It seems like the newest display I own has the most issues.

I generally just use it to control and schedule lights and devices with smart plugs. The odd time I try to set timers or reminders but I've never really been a big voice command person. I too struggle on the best way to get it to play my YouTube music likes list. I just cast from my phone instead.

One thing it mostly gets right is stopping whatever is playing.

With my Soundbar no longer being new enough to work with Google Assistant I'm not looking forward to when the rest of my smart lights, switches, and plugs join it as we go forward.

[-] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I use it for: general search queries, navigating to a place, turning on lights, setting timers, setting alarms, checking the weather, playing music, setting an appointment, setting reminders (though I prefer Todoist for this), listening to the NPR update.

Of the list of discontinued features here, I'll actually miss driving mode, which I found handy to reduce my distraction on the road by reading notifications to me, allowing me to open Pocket Casts or Libby in a couple clicks, etc. I also used the feature occasionally to resume audiobooks from Play Books where I left off.

[-] ComradeBunnie@aussie.zone 2 points 5 months ago

I gave up on it entirely probably a year or so ago, as I found if anything it was getting worse.

[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 1 points 5 months ago

I use it to make phone calls from my wireless headphones, that's about it.

[-] Banzai51@midwest.social 1 points 5 months ago

It's basically just a voice front end for Home Assistant at this point.

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[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 13 points 5 months ago

Has anyone had any success flashing a Google home? I'd be interested in putting a custom assistant on there

[-] pirat@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I recently stumbled upon this project, Onju Voice, and it's somehow related to what you're asking; It's a custom PCB (and selfhosted server software) for the Google Nest Mini (or your own custom enclosure).

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 points 5 months ago

Thanks! This looks like a very interesting project! I might sacrifice one of my minis to try this out

[-] evo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago
[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 points 5 months ago

This is a shockingly good thing they're building! Thanks for linking this, I'm going to dive into it!

[-] ElPussyKangaroo 1 points 5 months ago

I'm sorry, you did what?

[-] kindenough@kbin.social 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

My Nest Hub 2gen is just an expensive clock now, and it isn't even working well at that.
It used to control all my home automation. Now it's a lot of "sorry, I don't understand" clock.

[-] rickdg@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

I hope this is a step that makes sense towards merging google assistant with bard and their new gemini model.

[-] aniki@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago

Hopefully this makes people realize that billion dollar corporations are not where innovation takes place anymore and instead abandons billionaire assholes and their enshittified companies. If we're going to dream nonsense, dream big.

[-] indomara@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

The only time I use assistant is to turn my lights on and off, set alarms and routines, and to CALL SOMEONE WHILE DRIVING.

Why would they remove the ability to call someone while driving???

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