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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 139 points 1 week ago (68 children)

This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.

[–] Pratai@piefed.ca 51 points 1 week ago (3 children)

What’s interesting about them, and by interesting, I mean batshit stupid, is that they’ll be happy to take the credit in discussions about how non-voting sends a message to the establishment parties, but they become instant victims the moment the conversation becomes about how they helped trump to the throne.

And here’s where it gets funny:

All the credit; none of the blame. Who does that remind you of?

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nailed the vibe so perfectly.

I wish I could up-vote you about 1000x. 😮‍💨👌

[–] Pratai@piefed.ca 7 points 1 week ago (9 children)

It’s no end of insanity to see this shit every day. And the fact that they think no one notices this is just embarrassing for them.

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Nuh uh! They are moral angels, you monster!! /s

[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

The most moral Voters™️ in the world, they wouldn't hurt a fly!

Unless it was on the ballot, of course.

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[–] radiofreebc@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (4 children)

America isn't this way because of Trump. Trump is this way because of America.

Trump isn't the hero America needs, but he's the one America deserves. It's just a shame the rest of the world has to suffer because of American ignorance, entitlement and apathy.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

Yup.

Not voting is condoning whatever happens, good or bad. If you stayed home, you rubberstamped all of what's happening.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (5 children)

This is what you're achieving by braindead infighting.

They spent decades and trillions of dollars on making sure Americans can't unite. Looks like the investment paid off.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

While I agree with the sentiment, protest non-voting is already tantamount to infighting. This comment is just pointing fingers to set blame on another, which is stupid. But at the same time, calling for protest non-voters to unify with the rest of us should be the goal. That is the opposite of infighting. That's not exactly what OP was doing, but that is the remedy.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Me: vote.

You: stop telling people to vote! (Or whatever that was.)

Unreal.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Welcome to Lemmy, this place is a fuckin trip. Wait till you hear the LLml bots tell you that North Korea is actually a good actually for really real socialist state. You'd think it's a circus what with it being filled to the fuckin brim with clowns.

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[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It's not infighting, neo-liberals are conservatives, they're not the left as they're portrayed to be in news and media. The gulf of ideology between a leftist and neo-liberal is huge.

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[–] aramis87@fedia.io 102 points 1 week ago (5 children)

the federal government sent election officials in Los Angeles County an unverified list of 20,000 people it claims are “likely noncitizens” registered to vote in California. [...] federal agents used the list to make the more than two dozen targeted arrests on the basis of its voter fraud allegations. [...] The 11 arrestees are among 28 people the department officially charged—and all are from its list of 20,000 targets in the election. The press release claims that every person targeted is a legal permanent resident of the US but not a citizen.

No words.

“Every illegal vote cancels out the vote of a lawful American citizen,”

So it's the Great Replacement Theory applied to voting.

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 week ago (3 children)

“Every illegal vote cancels out the vote of a lawful American citizen,”

Not if they both vote for the same person

[–] grue@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

The obvious implication is that only MAGAs are "lawful American citizens."

Remember, the Trump regime has already declared all anti-fascists to be enemies of the state.

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[–] DocMcStuffin@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (3 children)

We've seen this same story play out in Nevada.

https://www.techdirt.com/2026/10/01/dhss-nevada-illegal-voter-claims-have-dropped-from-16000-to-200-to-zero-in-less-than-a-month/

They claim huge numbers, but when it's time to provide the evidence, they come up empty handed. That's why we are seeing the show of force with cameras and the media blitz. To create the perception of voter fraud to hide the fact that actual voter fraud is rare.

We know their numbers are bullshit too via Propublica:

HSI’s involvement in the hunt for election fraud traces at least to summer 2025, when agency supervisors embraced a proposal from a midlevel agent who’d publicly echoed Trump’s claims about elections. He argued the agency’s powerful databases and tools could find noncitizens even on the voter lists that states make publicly available, from which the most confidential information has been redacted. Under Trump, the Justice Department had collected many public voter rolls as part of a controversial effort to compel states to turn over the unredacted versions.

Those searches went forward, ProPublica’s reporting shows, helping to generate tens of thousands of leads regarding illegal voting across the country. But when HSI agents were sent to investigate them, the results were similar to what Teirab reported from Minnesota.

Between January 2025 and May 2026, a ProPublica analysis of Justice Department data shows, fewer than 150 alleged noncitizen voters were referred for prosecution. Even fewer — 41 — were charged with voting illegally or other election-related crimes. (More than 150 million people voted in the most recent presidential election.)

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There’s an array of reasons why Trump’s campaign to document claims of widespread voter fraud hasn’t succeeded. Most obviously, it’s exceedingly rare, as countless studies and state audits have found. Noncitizens often get on voter rolls by accident or when government officials make errors. Last month, New Jersey disclosed that a mistake involving its Motor Vehicle Commission caused 6,600 noncitizens to be registered (fewer than 400 voted).

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[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

There's no evidence of non citizens ever voting, because they can't.

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[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (7 children)

On Monday, federal authorities announced the arrest in California of at least 11 people, and charges against 28, alleging they registered to vote as noncitizens.

Whoa! 28 people! That's essentially zero, statistically speaking, which is exactly what knowledgeable people have been saying for years: that voter fraud is basically non-existent, and that it's not at all worth spending millions of dollars to combat.

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And keep in mind that they've done nothing to actually verify that A) the people they've arrested are not citizens and B) that if they are not, that they actually registered to vote. In their own words, the list is of "likely non-citizens." So basically, they have a list of people who are permanent residents. If you, a citizen, happen to have the same name as someone on that list, and you're registered to vote, you are at risk of being arrested. Or, vice versa, if a person on that list has the same name as someone registered to vote, they might get arrested even though they did nothing wrong.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago

its the time of the year again, create sound bites for faux news to consme, that dems are rigging elections

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago

It affects a handful of people directly but it's intended to intimidate many more.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 11 points 1 week ago

to distract from actual voter fraud the GOP is actually doing. voter suppression, ballot purging, closing count immediately as a gop is in the lead.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

These are charges, not convictions.

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[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 week ago (5 children)

do they really believe people will vote for them because they are arresting people who weren't going to vote for them

[–] Unleaded8163@fedia.io 54 points 1 week ago

They don't need any more people to vote for them, they just need more people to not vote against them.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Unfortunately Trump's base is very cruel, and yes they do enjoy seeing this.

They will scream one minute about abortion, then scream the next about how all the children in Palestine deserve to die.

This is not hyperbole. This is the real politics over here right now, and it's fucking insane.

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 week ago

For any CDN idiots trying to visit the US from Canada in November: they are trying to drum up "evidence" you are voting there.

ie. Trumped up charges.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

So much winning.

[–] Janx@piefed.social 15 points 1 week ago
[–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (17 children)

So who could the Republicans get to illegally vote for them? Russian agents? Maybe they bus around bunch die hards to go place to place attending rallies and voting in every location they can.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 week ago

All the white South Africans they're importing probably

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[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“Noncitizen voting in a federal election is a federal crime, and knowingly facilitating such conduct is equally unlawful,” McCotter wrote in a letter to county officials and California Secretary of State Shirley Weber that was obtained by the Associated Press. “If persons knowingly tabulate ballots cast by individuals identified by federal agencies as noncitizens, they risk becoming aiders and abettors to a federal crime.”

Here it is. They intend on arresting people using "aiding and abetting"

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