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[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 50 points 10 months ago

Landlords are cops? I haven't heard that one before. What does that mean?

Googling...wait, is this real? https://systemicjustice.org/article/landlords-as-cops/

I thought evictions took 30-90 days and required court approval in the US.

[-] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This is real. It's also one reason why laws against gay sex were on the books in many states until finally overturned by the Supreme Court in 2003 in Lawrence v Texas. Sometimes police would use the laws directly, but more commonly since gay sex was considered a criminal activity, landlords would use it as an excuse to deny lgbt people housing or evict them.

[-] ZombieTheZombieCat@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

Sociologist Matthew Desmond has an amazing book called Evicted that talks about criminal act evictions and profiles people who have been the target of them. The book follows very low income renters in Milwaukee through years of their struggles to find and keep housing. It also follows individual landlords from the same neighborhoods. It's technically an academic subject and is impeccably researched (the notes section in the back could be its own book) but it reads like a novel. It won a Pulitzer iirc.

He also just published Poverty, By America last year. I've only just started it, but it's just as readable. He explains overly-complicated regulations and social services red tape in a way that's concise and easy to understand, and he illustrates their consequences through his interviews with real people. His books should be required reading for every American.

[-] meekah@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Carceral housing law arose from a transformation in federal law enforcement, in which the U.S. government encouraged the merging of policing and welfare, and policing became driven primarily by profit

"Wait, it's all capitalism?" "Always has been."

[-] bear_delune@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago

Cops and landlords protect capital over all else

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The global economy is the reason I can't take civilization seriously, or even be on its side.

All I can do is appreciate the morbid gallows humor of it.

Billions of people self-flagellating on the false promises of a few thousand capitalist sociopath families. We were conquered by the modern contemporaries of the traveling snake oil salesmen of old. They've got most of the peasants so fucking snowed they don't even have to run away to the next county after they poison you anymore 🤣

[-] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

I feel like I do this alot, except it's the Aztec Empire instead of capitalism.

[-] explodicle@local106.com 9 points 10 months ago

FWIW I'm one of those people who would rather hear about Aztecs than today's weather, so thank you.

[-] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Aztec fact of the day:

To punish some Altepetl (city states) for rebellion the Mexica would impose near impossible quotas on yearly tribute, such as white jaguar pelts.

[-] deus@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Pre-Columbian American civilizations are incredibly interesting. It's absurd how far they got without wheels, iron tools or animals like horses and cows. I guess I wouldn't mind listening about the Aztecs constantly.

[-] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Mesoamerican fact of the day:

The wheel was actually known to Mesoamerica pre-European contact. Archeological finds included toys, food preparation tools, seal rollers, and spindle whorls for textile making.

I'm a history nerd and Mesoamerica is quality content.

[-] porcariasagrada@slrpnk.net 11 points 10 months ago

the dense tropical forest made backpacks way better for transportation of goods.

[-] TheSanSabaSongbird 1 points 10 months ago

That and the fact that they had no draft animals.

[-] Jknaraa@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

Their secret was murdering their children to win the favour of their gods.

[-] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

For Tlaloc only ones born on lucky days.

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

I do too, except it's billionaires instead of capitalism.

I believe in capitalism, it just needs to be very tightly controlled and heavily skewed in favor of the disadvantaged to keep it fair.

[-] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

I just want feudalism to end

[-] Jentu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 10 months ago

Capitalism always exploits someone whether the bulk of the exploitation is within your country’s borders or not. Being perfectly comfortable within capitalism comes at the expense of someone else regardless of regulation.

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca -1 points 10 months ago

One, I don't believe it has to be that way. With enough taxes on the wealthy, regulation on commerce, and social programs for the poor, I think a system of fairness can be achieved.

Two, I don't believe that communism of any form result in a sense of fairness for anyone. I believe most humans have an innate desire to work to improve their lives, and I don't believe communism offers the same freedom and opportunities for self improvement through honest work that can be offered by tightly regulated capitalism in combination with strong social programs.

[-] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 19 points 10 months ago

The fact that the poor still exist in your ideal "fair" society indicates that a capitalist system still relies on exploitation. How do you make "work or starve" disappear while still being capitalist?

Communism is a stateless, moneyless society. It's a utopian marker for people in the present day. It's not a fixed ideology in and of itself. The Spanish Anarchists of the CNT-FAI and the USSR have very little in common but both aspired to implement communism, at least on paper. I have my criticisms but they're not relevant.

You would be correct in saying that people have an innate desire to labor and improve their lives. Capitalism forces you to (attempt to) improve your life and shape the world through competition with your peers. If you're disadvantaged in some way, fuck you. Work harder or die in the streets. Social programs and welfare are antithetical to capitalism. It doesn't independently generate profit and thus is often ignored or slowly eroded over time when it does manage to manifest. Socialism/ socialist ideologies (worker ownership of the means of production) enables people to improve their life and shape the world through cooperation. It seeks to ensure everyone is able to live a dignified life and contribute according to their ability. Humans are capable of both competiton and cooperation and capitalism builds a very one sided society that demands competition. It's a terrible way to live and alienates people from each other.

Socialism (in my perspective as an anarchist) seeks to allow people to live their lives with the maximal amount of freedom, self determination, and autonomy possible. Whether that includes markets (which I'm assuming is what you mean by capitalism, since that's what most people who defend capitalism think it is), planned economies, gift economies, library economies or something completely different, is a better system than capitalism on a foundational level

[-] Jentu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 10 months ago

Ancom here and I fully agree with everything you said. Hopefully we’ll get to where we’re going one day, whatever methodology ends up working.

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[-] TheSanSabaSongbird 1 points 10 months ago

I wouldn't bother with any further engagement. Lemmy's tankies are not economically literate and basically operate on their own set of "alternative" facts. Argument is pointless. These are ideologues, not people seeking rational evidence-based solutions.

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[-] kureta@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago

then it's no longer capitalism.

[-] aew360@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

What would it be to have a market economy with private investments and also a system that ensures the tax system ensures everyone has at least basic housing and access to vocational schools and higher education? I don’t want to completely upend the system but tweak it so Kevin Griffin cries himself to sleep at night

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[-] TheSanSabaSongbird 1 points 10 months ago
[-] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago

Capitalism cannot be regulated to become fair. Capitalism is irrational and immoral, it does not need to be controlled or reformed, it must be overcome

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[-] lemmyman@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

Typical Lemmy experience

[-] ecosystems@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago

All my friends be like “hehe I’m a socialist” and then they never come out they room

[-] HipHoboHarold@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

I was gonna reply with "Sometimes the issue is racism", but then I remembered a large part of the racism also goes back to capitalism.

[-] Wilzax@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

My boss is my friend but she doesn't control payroll

[-] crimroy@sopuli.xyz 7 points 10 months ago

I don't know what everyone's complaining about. I found this funny and it reminded me of the television program entitled, "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia."

[-] LavaPlanet@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I like you, son!

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