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To be clear, this is a jab at the copious amount of sugar that companies throttle down our throats. It’s a critique of big companies.

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[–] notabot@piefed.social 48 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Grams per ounce as a measurement is hurting my brain, but yes, it's a disturbing amount.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's 3.25 g/floz, so:

units "3.25 grams per floz" "grams per litre"
	* 114.38401
	/ 0.0087424808

That is repulsive.

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Why the fuck would you use grams per litre. We use grams per 100 grams of products. Coke is like 33% sugar, that's easy to calculate if you have g per 100g.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Why not? Coke's density is nearly equal to water, so once you've got everything in SI units, calculations become trivial. One litre of water is 1 kg/l, 100 g is 100 ml, which makes it 11.4 g of sugar in 100 g of product.

(edit) The "original" can of coke (sold in the EU) in my hand doesn't use grams. It lists the nutritional content in reference to both 100 millilitres and the can's nominal volume of 330 ml. It says it contains 11.2 grams of sugar in 100 ml.

Now calculating that in Troy pounds per long hundredweight would be actual insanity.

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

I know my local units, thanks. And we already use g per 100g, so even though it is basically the same as 0.1L people understand 100g proportions better.

I'm not proposing a new unit of description here, I'm saying that the proposed one is absurd given that we have an established and more useful unit virtually everywhere.

iirc most soda drinks are 10g sugar per 100g

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[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Obviously Oz per Oz would be superior, simply for how dumb it is

[–] trainden@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How many wizards is that per oz?

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[–] waldfee@feddit.org 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

I’m concerned at the thought of how short of a time it would take me to consume four gallons of skittles. Much less than six months, that’s for sure.

[–] ReconciliationTime22128@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Angus MaCavity would be rubbing his greasy little hands if he read this…

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

For reference, that's 2.8 tablespoons.

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Thank you for saving me from math

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Oh I'm sure there's someone who adds close to three tablespoons of sugar to their tea.

No one sane, of course. Southern US sweet tea? Lol

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

A good bar bet is that a coke will have more sugar than any candy bar.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago

Gotta balance out all that phosphoric acid...

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think this is no longer true (but almost) due to tRump shrinkflation

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Care to put a few rounds on it?

[–] 5765313496@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Is that a bet where the winner gets a Mr. Goodbar?

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

pepsi has more.

coca-cola is actually about 20th on the list of highest sugar content of mass-produced soda. numerous flavors of crush, fanta, and mountain dew have more, so do several different root beers, and the aforementioned pepsi.

[–] TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Where I live, we call store-bought iced tea "tooth killer", because it has so much sugar in it.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

the 'good stuff' is about one pound of sugar per gallon of tea.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

There is way to much sugar in coke

But be the devils advocate. The current anti sugar trend is worse.

Sugar is a natural and useful component to the body. There are times where having sugar available is not only important but can save lives (including some types of diabetes)

I have gone to locations where all provided drinks where zero sugar and bringing your own drinks not allowed. Thats is not an improvement.

[–] dephyre@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I have gone to locations where all provided drinks where zero sugar and bringing your own drinks not allowed. Thats is not an improvement.

Sorry, but why? The vast majority of the foods that we eat contain plenty of sugar.

Even with a pretty healthy diet you're still getting enough sugar. High sugar vegetable like carrots, bell peppers peppers, onions, sweet potatoes, and beets more than meet your needs, especially when paired with even the smallest amount of fruit.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Its not a big problem if you are not one of the people with a medical issue that need a reliable and exactly known amount of sugar.

Its a life endangering problem if you are.

Foods are rarely as standardized as drinks. Medical professionals relked on the availability and exactly known amount of sugar in regular code to prescribe it as part of a diet.

This was at some point even adressed on my local news when they changed the coke zero packaging to be more like regular coke. There is an increased change a customer (or waiter) could grab the wrong can and taste wise you wouldn’t know. This goed both directions.

People who can’t have sugar may be served sugar.

People who require sugar may be served sugar free.

I bet the scope of this problem is small but at least some medical professionals and health groups agree that this is not the way to go.

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[–] Sinthesis@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A medium sized apple has 20 grams of sugar. It comes with other benefits that soda doesn't, vitamins and fiber, but it still has a load of sugar in it.

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So an apple contains about half the sugar a can of coca cola does, and comes with various other benefits?
You're unlikely to eat two apples in a row, let alone eight or nine on top of having all three of your usual meals. But you could fairly easily drink an entire large bottle of coke throughout the day, which is exactly the problem.

Edit to add: this is why fruit juice isn't exactly healthy either. Sure, it's got vitamins, but it's basically soda.

[–] cadmiumsandbox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

i implore people to not continue associating high sugar to creating diabetes. the 'research' that is often cited is just corelation there is no causation link of sugar to diabetes

its yet another way politicians, corporations, healthcare industries have weaponized obesity to dehumanize, deny care, and blame diseases on individual habits rather than the actual evidence of genetics playing a huge sometimes the only role.

coca cola is bad as a company, its bad for doing what it does with its products and causes real harms. but this cheap labeling as sugar = diabetes is just harming the people not coca cola

[–] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You got a source for that?

Good general read: https://www.healthline.com/health/diabetes/sugar-doesnt-cause-diabetes

General recommendations from CDC and NIH don't include anything about sugar consumption. Correlations with obesity that one might jump to saying has parts of high sugar consumption is only linked/associated not causally linked as presented: https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/about/about-type-2-diabetes https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/diabetes/overview/symptoms-causes

General glance at a meta analysis here is still a correlation link: https://www.bmj.com/content/351/bmj.h3576

Regarding the weaponized thing, that takes a lot more effort to explain that I don't got right now. The first article explains some cultural aspects of what I meant but the institutional level is it's own thing.

Diabetes is not linked to being caused by high sugar intake, or anything else in any substantial manner that I can find. There are correlations with a lot of things, but we don't know the cause.

We know obesity is weaponized in healthcare to abuse patients, reduce or remove care, and other general bad things, where in many many cases its correlations not causation. Correlations like sugar use being treated as fact creates discrimination and medical shield for corporations to hide behind denying care. The link being used as a cheap shot to call out coca cola hurts both those with diabetes who are faced with this idea that it's their fault, all the while doing nothing about coca cola or the systemic issues it created to get away with this.

[–] tyranny@crazypeople.online 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

thank you for this, i scrolled looking for someone saying this, and almost commented something myself, much less well-put. it seems to be a ubiquitous belief that anyone with type-2 diabetes got it from making sinful food choices, rather than it being caused by unknown factors, and there being many risk associations such as stress and genetics, but also including weight. to me the bottom line is that it isn't a settled question, and it irritates me when people act like it is, and moreso act like the answer just so happens to perfectly align with fatphobia

[–] cadmiumsandbox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

no problem. i initially had an angry dismissive comment in mind but i realize that a lot of people dont even know the link is just correlations and have bought into a century of propaganda & bigotry. best to be kind when unsure

[–] tyranny@crazypeople.online 3 points 1 week ago

words to live by!

[–] j5y7@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

I wonder if people would drink as much if it was called what it is: syrup.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (4 children)

the entire discussion about sugar intake seems incredibly heated to me, from just reading the comments. i don't get why we don't just sit down¹ and talk this through step-by-step in a meaningful way.

[1]: you can also keep standing if you want to

i'm not a phd in healthcare but i've read various things over the years, that i'm gonna say, if others think they have something to add / correct, feel free to chime in.

the amount of sugar intake is recommended by the WHO to be not more than 10% of your daily calorie intake. So if you consume 2000 kcal a day, that means ideally not more than 50g sugar per day.

now, what one must realize about these numbers is that they're a worldwide average, and numbers can vary a lot by region and individual. for example, people in 1960 in the US consumed more sugar than we do today, yet they had fewer cases of obesity. the reason is because people were more physically active and worked more physically demanding blue-collar jobs. so the situation depends on time, space, individual.

so one shouldn't take the WHO recommendation as gospel and the only truth to live by.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

i'd also like to add that the discussion about sugar typically revolves around diabetes, but that's not the only effect that excessive sugar intake has. it also causes a higher incidence rate of inflammation; which you can imagine is because bacteria feed off that sugar in your blood, and then produce toxins which make you itchy.

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