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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago

But don't you dare call it apartheid.

[–] danielfm123@lemmy.zip -3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Would muslin country allow Catholic or Jew party? Reciprocity.

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Jordan reserves 9 parlimentary seats for Christians, out if 138. That's 6.5% of seats for a group that makes up 2-3% of the population.

In Iraq, it's only 5 out of 329, or ~1.6% for a group that makes up 0.3-0.6%

In Lebanon, christians hold 64 parlimentary seats out of 128, or exactly 50%, despite making up only 31-33% of the population. And the president must be christian.

In Israel, there are no reserved seats for "Arabs", and they currently hold about 9.1% of seats despite representing 21.7% of the population.

Fuck off, Nazi.

[–] Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Man, Israelis are so FUCKING stupid! Like this is the shit you share with each other with full confidence and don't even bother looking it up? What an idiot!

"Reciprocity" - as if something (that's completely untrue even) done in a different country means it's ok to be done in another.

[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago

But ... but ... Israel is democracy, friend of USA, ...

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Genuinely despicable. Hopefully the courts will strike it down swiftly.

This is most likely a Right-wing plot to drive division in the Left leading up to elections. Many parties end up polling below the threshold, so in a contentious election they often merge to form larger parties and mutually benefit. If Left wing parties can't form common ground to merge, then the Right stands to gain more seats without having to win more votes.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Any proof that this is uniquely rightwing? I couldn't find a list of votes by political party or anything of the sort, and my understanding is that the Central Election Committee is at least in theory broadly representative of the Knesset as a whole.

[–] Waffelmeister@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

There is only one left and one center-left party in the Knesset and together they have 9 seats out of 60.

[–] dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The commission has a majority of 18 Likud-aligned members. The proportion is similar to the Knesset. The rest are from other parties. Now go look at the vote total from the article.

They didn't say it outright but it's clear this is being driven by Likud and their far right allies.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Well, yes. Left wing parties have formed a government with Arab parties in the past, and even merged.

[–] Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

What division in the left? Literally every "left" party is pro genocide in Israel.

The actual leftists (communist party and the Arab parties) have a coalition that this apartheid law would break up.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The word 'apartheid' has been thrown about a lot with Israel but it's never quite been accurate as Palestine is another country.

But this is Apartheid. There is no weaseling around it. It's 100% apartheid. Israel, go fuck yourselves.

[–] TheOctonaut@piefed.zip 70 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But... that's how South African apartheid worked? The white government tried to represent the black as sovereign states ("Bantustans") and revoked South African citizenship from people who lived there. The rest of the civilised world ignored this idea, particularly since the "independent" states weren't even contiguous areas on a map. Map is below. Compare this to current maps of Palestinian control in the area Israel claims, and you'll find it remarkably similar. The "inspiration" is not even hidden.

[–] compuglobalhypermeganet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Holy shit what a top tier comment thank you!

[–] ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m surprised any time people learn this stuff because it’s been going on at this pace since the 60s.

I’ve actually personally only ever heard the term Bantustan used as a historical comparison for what’s been happening in Palestine.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago

Very much the same as the US did with the reservations for Native Americans. And we all know how well that worked out for them.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's literally in the Israeli Constitution that all Jews and only Jews ~~can be~~ are Israeli Nationals (edit: all Jews are per the constitution Israeli nationals, which is why any Jew can just land on the Tel-Aviv airport and ask for and get Israeli nationality).

Non-Jews in Israel can only be Non-Jewish Israeli Citizens which is something different in that country and has fewer rights than a national (for example, they have to apply if they want to move to live in some places and can be refused).

So at its very core Israel is and has been from the start an Apartheid state.

[–] Humanius@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I always took the term "apartheid state" to refer to the way Israel treats Palestinians both in the West Bank, which despite being a separate country is also under military occupation by Israel, and at home within Israeli borders

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 1 week ago

It's not another country in any real sense of the word; in practice both the West Bank and Gaza are semi-autonomous territories of Israel, the difference being that the West Bank is more or less obedient while Gaza is in rebellion. Palestine as a sovereign state is a legal fiction so in practice it's all Apartheid.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

Israel doesn't recognize Palestine as a country.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In an argument recently a Zionist challenged me to name one thing about Israel that was similar to Nazi Germany and I said: The laws are different for Jews than for everyone else.

[–] Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

According to their supreme court ruling (which sets their constitutional precedence) only Israeli Jews have the right to self determination, nobody else.

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

so much for democracy

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Liberal zionists finding the trimming around the ceiling very interesting to look at right now.

[–] Arancello@aussie.zone 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

right out of Putins playbook

[–] Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Banning opposition parties, yes. But banning ethnic groups - that's the definition of apartheid and it's literally the crux of the problem in Palestine.

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What? This is textbook America lol.

[–] tyranny@crazypeople.online 6 points 1 week ago

and it was the british who colonised both palestine and the US.

[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk -1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Which political parties have been banned in America?

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You only have two parties my friend, I wouldn't talk. They aren't banned by law but what happens when someone starts one up? Please be frank about it.

[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk -1 points 1 week ago

I'm not American. I'm just asking a simple question - which parties has america banned?

Having 2 main parties because that's just how its happened isn't the same thing as banning them.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

The Communist Party USA (CPUSA) was banned in 1954 under Eisenhower, which a federal court eventually deemed unconstitutional 19 years later.

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

You've never heard of mcarthyism, lmao?

Also I was referencing the racial ban aspect of it. American as apple pie.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"Only democracy in the Middle East"

"Most moral army in the world"

[–] spacegoat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

American conservatives shouldn’t be allowed to vote or make any decisions

discrimination now, and when Germany tried to do it with their far right party