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This just sounds like everyone? I am sure some ageism happens but the only "scientific" part of this is a quick single source comparison of total number of job hunters.
Its awful out there.
It sounds better than for us youngins, they're all getting interview's from job applications.
We're only getting interviews through network
Yeah, I’m nowhere near 50 and I’m coming up on two years of Unemployment.
Never put dates on the education part of your resume.
You can hide it on the resume, but a lot of sites that make you fill in all of the info on their applications make the date a mandatory field.
For what it's worth these days in the USA, this specifically is illegal in Colorado, Delaware, Oregon and NYC. That's in addition to protections provided by the ADEA.
Easy fix. Just do like everyone else and lie. The truth doesn't matter anymore.
If they call you on it, just say you're ambitious and may run for President one day.
Date? Half the jobs I apply for require a transcript!
Or--and stay with me here--get some graduate certificate and make that the only thing that appears on your education.
Sounds like the job market as a whole.
There’s no job loyalty but the employers expect it for some reason and decide that someone with 5 years experience will stay around longer than 25 years - though the reality isn’t that at all.
The job loyalty thing pisses me off so bad. I enjoy staying at a single company and was at my former one for nearly 5 years. That whole time though was spent fighting tooth and nail for a promotion to a position I was already acting as and then shortly after getting it, I got laid off without any remorse. I built half of their system and knew it inside and out but apparently that meant nothing
I'm at a better company now doing much cooler stuff but I still think back to that and get angry again
Let the lesson to the younger generation be that if you have to fight for a promotion, go elsewhere and get it.
Yeah... I graduated roughly ten years ago and can absolutely confirm. The cognitive dissonance corporations have is astonishing as they refuse promotions and do frequent layoffs while at the same time complaining that workers aren't loyal any more. Motherfucker I'd love to be loyal. Give me good pay, good benefits, and job security and I'll stick around until retirement*, fuck.
*And MAYBE actually offer a retirement plan. Canada (and the US surely) need a huge union comeback
A handful of interviews? Man, they're getting better responses than me, and I've been looking for over 6 years because I wanted to leave my last job.
Most of the people around that age at my work who were laid off were basically forced to retire.
Same in the us but really I don't think jobs are falling into younger folks laps.
Having to do online cr'application's and taking modified MMPI tests doesn't help.
I'm not surprised. I've seen it, even in industries which value experience.
I don't doubt that there are people who see old person and move on to the next candidate. I also believe that many people do not redefine themselves in their careers and have not grown since they were in their late 20s. You have to grow and adapt or get left behind.
I've tried editing my CV according to ATS but still havent had luck.
I'm building some self-hostable software that will tune resumes and cover letters to each job posting: https://docs.circuitforge.tech/peregrine/
There's also a free online version hosted at the main site
If only anybody could identify what the problem was..
I guess it'll remain a forever mystery.