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My poor wife has to deal with my adhd all the time, which includes cooking. I can't stand cooking, and have always looked for ways to avoid it. I've seen lots of people on here express the same sentiment, and I'm curious if anybody has any advice? What works for you to trick your brain into cooking?

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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I have pretty severe ADD, no H though. I LOVE cooking, provided I am not cooking for just myself. The key I have found it prep. Make sure you have everything chopped and measured before you throw anything into the pan. Also PREHEAT your damn pans and ovens! If you are data driven the way I am, set a timer and figure out how long it takes to preheat the oven. Your pan shouldn't take more than 30-45 seconds to preheat. Once everything is chopped and assembled, I turn on the heat, and start to dance.

The dance is a chaotic mix of tossing stuff into the pan, stirring or tossing stuff in the pan, and washing the dishes I have used. Past that, it is literally just practice. The more time you spend in a kitchen the more innate your sense of time will become. I barely need to set timers anymore. I still do, just in case I get absorbed in something else, but frequently I look up at my time with about 00:03 on the clock.

[–] myyass@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

Buy a rice cooker and just throw in what you want to eat. If you're willing to pay a higher cost, there's precut stuff at the grocery store or you can get frozen veggie bags as well as seasoning bags. For example I made myself a stew, shaved beef with a potato and a carrot and a can of seasoned beans, and some beer for liquid. Took maybe a few minutes to throw everything in the rice cooker and I just press the slow cook option.

[–] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That depends. You have to identify what your particular hang up(s) are. Is it the actual cooking, not knowing what you're doing, textures of things, prep, clean up, having multiple tasks going at once etc.?

Once you identify the hangup you can work with it. For me personally it's mostly time and cleanup. I don't enjoy cooking so it feels like I'm wasting time I could be using for anything else. Then I have to clean up after? Fuck that!

So I try to stick to easy, short, less dishes involved meals. The Instant pot is nice because it speeds a lot of things up, I can set it and walk away. Air fryer is great too. I line mine with tin foil so I have to clean it less.

I also work with my ADHD. I'll buy frozen veggies and stuff because 90% of the time the extra step to prep/cut things is the step that prevents me from doing anything.

[–] bob@feddit.uk 4 points 1 day ago

Learn how to make 2 meals. Make massive portions of said meals.

[–] shittydwarf@piefed.ca 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Simple slow cooker recipes are sweet because you just dump the ingredients into the slow cooker and turn it on. Same thing with the rice cooker and a steam basket, rice cooks underneath and then some veggies / protein above bam little meal right there. Marinate your proteins by just putting them in a Ziploc bag with some stuff the day before.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

I do two setup foods. Two steps, food is done.

[–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nothing others haven't said but if it works for you and your life, cooking once a week works might be much better than trying to cook every day.

I usually make a slop of some kind centred around beans/tofu/tvp and keep that in the fridge. That gets made in the instant pot so there is no waiting around. That's what I hate most about cooking. I don't want to have to keep an eye on the stove.

I use dry beans and soak them rather than cooking the beans first or cooking from dry in the final dish. It's not technically one step but it's less time sensitive or prone to burn/disgusting texture than the other options.

The slop gets eaten with rice which I do cook throughout the week in the rice cooker. This is more about the volume of rice we eat than anything else.

Frozen veggies or salads get added which helps add some customization and ensure I am getting enough fibre and variety of veggies.

I worked in a catering kitchen in uni and I can't tell how much of my comfort with this comes from that experience or that it's just not rocket science 😅

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I worked in a dining court in college, and honestly I went into auto pilot during my shifts. It's easier to do when my brain thinks I have no choice. Unfortunately that doesn't work with cooking at home. Thanks for the tips!

It's easier to do when my brain thinks I have no choice

Lmao story of my life. I meant more about knowing what foods handle the week long storage time without degrading in quality and understanding bulk food production, like doing the mis en place as the other commenter said. Sounds like you have a good foundation, good luck!

[–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)
  • "Mis en place". Prep all of your ingredients in advance. You can even do it a couple days in advance and keep them in the fridge. Then when it comes to the actual cooking part, you'll find it's a lot less stressful and requires much less changing gears and switching tasks. There's a reason pro kitchens do this, it makes cooking a lot easier and less error-prone.

  • Cook a big pot of something and eat it over a few days. A big pot of chili or spaghetti sauce can be lunch and dinner for multiple days. A good rice cooker, like a Zojirushi or whatever, can keep rice warm and tasty for a couple days. Likewise, a slow cooker can do the same with a stew or curry. No need to cook every day!

  • Get a roommate or family member to help you if possible. Cooking is hard work whether we enjoy it or not, so it helps to have someone to delegate tasks to. If other people are eating, they should be helping to cook and clean.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I never thought of prepping ingredients ahead of time. That's a fantastic idea!

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Do a weeks worth of meal planning and prep once a week. Do it while relaxed and listening to a good podcast or having your favourite movie running. Make it enjoyable (or at least as stress free as possible). For the rest of the week it's just plop and cook, plop and cook with very little thought required. Good luck!

[–] ironcrotch@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I love cooking and I was thinking about why the other day. Turns out it’s one of the few things that when I start I will actually finish. Whether it ends up good or not is another thing.

[–] j_z@feddit.nu 3 points 1 day ago

Might not be the most adhd compatible tip, but I try to clean up the kitchen after cooking. If I need to do it before cooking I find it drains a lot of energy

[–] Primor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I made it more fun by using a nice sharp kitchen knife. Not that I cook more now, but I can! If my wife asks me in advance to cook

[–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago

I have fatigue condition as well, so honestly I just gave up on "cooking". Try to aim for "arrangements" instead. Much easier and takes less focus/time/energy.

  • Toast with toppings
  • Greek yoghurt fruit bowl
  • Smoothie
  • Canned bean burritos with cheese
  • Other healthy snacks
  • Etc

Obviously it depends highly on your dietary needs. I'm vegetarian with very complex health so I built my diet around that, but you might have more flexibility. Try not to buy "ready to eat" stuff every day though because they're usually pretty bad health wise. Also the freezer is your friend; it will forgive you when you forget leftovers for 3 months.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I love cooking but I don't have the energy fo rmuch thanks to my health issues. I also do have severe ADHD.

For me, it's looking for simpler recipes.

Look for shortcuts. Find things that are easy but are tasty. Don't fall for the bullshit that you have to make everything from scratch.

A slow cooker and a rice pot probably would serve you well. It's so very easy to get a pot of rice going. For my rice, I use:

  • 2⅔ C rice (basmati or long grain)
  • 3 C / 32oz tetra pack of stock (whichever makes sense with the meal)
  • 1 teaspoon salt
  • 1 teaspoon MSG
  • stick of butter

(yes, that's a whole stick! You should get more than 8 servings of rice out of it, and it's just tastier. But you do you)

Beef stew like my mom made and I still make:

  • Cut up a beef roast or just buy precut stew meat (should be around the same price and worth the saved effort)
  • Cut up 2-3 large potatoees (after scrubbing). If you have the energy, peel them first, otherwise scrub REALLY well
  • Peel (or scrub well) a pound of carrots (or maybe closer to 2 - I like carrots a lot) and cut into 1 inch chunks or so
  • Peel a couple of onions and slice in half, the halves in halves, then each quarter in half - or slice each half in thirds
  • Add it all into a slow cooker with a tetra pak of beef stock or broth. May have to add water to cover. Add a couple tablespoons of Better than Bouillon beef and stir it in, then cook for 2-4 hours, checking for doneness and tenderness of the beef

Serve stew over rice

If you get some dry roux, take a couple of pounds of stew meat, dust with a quarter cup of dry roux and a couple tablespoons of better than bouillon and mix in your slow cooker and cook until tender. The juices from the beef should be enough to make a gravy, but if you want to add a little beef stock or water if it needs it, go for it. Serve over rice.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My sister's adhd effects her mor heavily than mine in cooking. I lived with her for a year a few years ago, and I noticed how often she used her rice cooker/instapot.

She'd make rice and have it with the smoked salmon you dont have to cook. Or tuna packets. But that instapot was always getting used for rice. set it, and forget it. haha and she would forget it. but it turns off on its own which was good.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)
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[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I’m not diagnosed but based on most of the posts that end on /all I’m suspecting I’m somewhere along the adhd line or whatever.

what makes me love cooking is that I can split large recipes in small sub tasks. I’m using a ton of small bowls to prep each part in and organize my kitchen.

Each of those little steps is in itself a small emergency that must be dealt with instead of multiple recipes for a meal.

Eventually all goes in together in a beautifully organised ceremony of sorts when it’s time to finish the recipes.

And second to that I can iterate a meticulously improve the outcome. And who doesn’t love to track progress with pics and such?

[–] monkeyman512@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Instapot and a few recipes that essentially are, "Put everything in the pot, close lid, turn on, wait".

[–] HumbleBragger@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

I cook once a month and freeze it. For me its been great. I don't waste time and energy figuring out what to have for lunch. We don't have a full meal after work so we just prepare hamburger meat for the month and eventually have that for diner..I reduced my meal preparation to one day a month. I keep my diet and have more time to do.other stuff instead of cooking every single day.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Figure out what specifically you don't like. Is there a texture thing when handling certain foods? Are you too focused on perfect measurements? Is there a planning issue with getting overwhelmed before you can even start?

From there just focus on ways to mitigate the problems.

[–] dgdft@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Same trick that works for most ADHD problems: grease a groove. Make a few select meals over and over until they become effortless, then expand your pool over time once you’re ready.

Simple pasta dish is a good place to start. Then an oven roast maybe, or a breakfast meal.

Once you know a few staples and can execute them with your eyes closed, the whole process is much less daunting.

[–] phughes@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes. It's the same solution as for non ADHD people. Practice. That's how you get better at things.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't need more practice, lol. I've done tons of cooking. I just don't like doing it. I appreciate the advice though.

[–] dgdft@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Agreed — though I think the big ADHD-specific barrier is anxiety around all the non-cooking parts of the process: finding a recipe, figuring out which dishes and equipment to use for prep, knowing what ingredients you need at the store, etc.

Keeping the pool of recipes ultra-tight removes a lot of hurdles that an ADHD person who hates the labor of cooking would trip on, whereas I’d tell someone who was really eager to learn cooking to experiment broadly or read some kitchen-philosophy books instead of iterating on something basic right off the bat.

But zooming out, you’re spot on; this is just a strategy to make it easier to get the practice reps in :).

[–] Cyberfuchs@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I always listen to podcasts while cooking. Without that, cooking feels like I'm wasting time

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm going to try this! I hate complicated recipes, but maybe I can trick my brain into just doing it if I have something else to help occupy my brain.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Skip the complicated ones. There are loads of tasty recipes that involve nothing more than dumping things in a pot. We're getting to fall and it will soon be cool enough that soup sounds good, and most of those are very simple.

Here's a recipe for a whole crockpot chicken that comes out like a rotisserie chicken - fall off the bone tender - and all you do is rub a raw chicken with as bunch of spices and dump it in a crockpot. I like to put it on a bed of veggies and they cook in the chicken juices.

Good on you for trying!

[–] MonaySimpson@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

I find recipes are always complicated. I rewrite them in an order and way that makes sense to me.

Plus the prep all food before the cooking thing that someone else mentioned. It takes linger and makes more dishes but worth it.

[–] ergonomic_importer@piefed.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As always, it's getting started that's the hardest. Once the onions are in the pan then the rest comes easy, but I do have to have something on the TV for some background noise at the very least.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Very true, the hardest part is always getting started. I also pick simple recipes most of the time spaghetti or frozen lasagna that I can just add some veggies too.

[–] orgrinrt@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I have adhd but love cooking. What I do, is make it rule-free, chaotic, and kind of like the other creative things my hyperfocus and natural interest kind of steer me to anyway.

So I don’t follow recipes; for new things, I experiment and kind of freestyle stuff, fail and learn, then over time I accumulate enough to understand why things happen and eventually when the fundamentals are kind of all “clicked”, it’s extremely fun to just apply them in different ways in practice.

I also love baking for the same reason.

But perhaps that only works because it’s very similar to my other interests like music, creative writing and programming. As in, creative, something to work within the bounds of rules that exist, without knowing them, and accumulating understanding through exploration which is always so exciting and can easily slurp up hours of each day in an eyeblink.

But probably worth a test to try and frame it like this! I know it works for me and I have a pretty severe case of adhd, even fully medicated

Edit: also, reading the other suggestions here, I realized there’s another thing I do: I never do the one thing. When I start cooking, I always take it as the one chance to do all the things I’ve been wanting to do, because it’s just easy when I’m already making a mess and piles of dishes and all.

I, same as most everyone, hate waiting around. So I never do; I just have several things going so I can always jump from one thing to the other and then to the other etc. so I never have to stop. It’s the natural way I work with software too and pretty much anything in my life, and most adhd peeps I know through support groups or otherwise have the same “superpower” (ugh).

So it helps for me to have a lot on my hands so I never have to think or stop and can just jump around doing many things. Start hydrating a sourdough base from the starter, then feed it, while those sit, start on a dessert by doing caramel/toffee, and as that sits, check up on and start kneading in flours to the bread, and once that sits again, start stirring the caramel, then put out of heat once ready, then feed the starter second time, knead the bread again, then start working the granulated soy to mimic ground beef (I’ve found egg whites and vegan butter at room temp, and slowly working those in while letting it soak them and spices works so well), then once that sits, and bread still has to rise, and can’t feed the starter yet to put it to fridge, I start packaging the caramel (good idea to do more than you think you’d need, so that allows something more next time more easily), then was a couple of dishes (so never try to do all at once, it’s so annoying and boring), then knead the bread, then feed the starter and fridge it, then continue working in the “ground beef-ish soy”, then pour a pile of flour on the same table already messy from kneading, break an egg or two, start making fresh pasta, and so on and so on… it’s a nice all-consuming flow with a lot of varying stuff to shuffle between and dance around, keeps me very occupied and I usually watch a tv series at the same time or listen to ebook

[–] Yew@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Spaghetti, rice, potatoes, all are pretty much "boil water and set a timer." I also enjoy the preseasoned chicken and pork from the grocery store. Turns out better than when I season it myself and the only step is to heat it up.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

I'm the opposite of most here. Cooking can hold my attention on quick but medium complexity recipes. Add X, wait a few minutes mixing in high fire until it starts to water; add Y, keep mixing for another couple minutes until it starts to change color, etc. No period of just waiting, you're always engaged. I find it relaxing, my mind focuses on just that one thing.

[–] shartgargle@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Find something you can cook that other people rave over. The reward is the dopamine hit you get. Do you have kids? Make buttered noodles with cut up chicken breast. Very very low effort and kids love it.

Just the wife? Make meatballs one night. Pretty easy to do, super tasty, bit heavy on the cleanup tho. Make enough to make it worth it. They're a great snack to munch on throughout the day. I call them one of my ADHD snacks. Then the next night boil some spaghetti, make some sauce, easy peasy and just buy some frozen garlic bread. Boom "fancy" dinner in 2 steps with left over ADHD snacks.

Ever try smoking things? It takes some trial and error, but easily can turn into a hyperfocus. It's a bunch of low-effort steps spread throughout 2-8 hours. And makes some insanely tasty food.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I cook a lot, been cooking since I was 12. You know, yeah, the dopamine of having someone compliment your food is, like nothing else. I chase that high.

I was 22, living with a boyfriend and his two friends. I dont even remember what I made, but it's over 15 years later and I can still remember one of my roommates going "mrs mink" (thats what they called me) this is so good, holy fuck why is it so good" and like, raving about it. I can still remember beaming. Or the time I went on a group camping trip at 23 and attempted to make chili to feed 50 people. And I did. The giant pot I made was gone in ten mins flat. The compliments poured in.

ahh. yeah, fucking dopamine. Im not good at being social, at all, but I'll cook for ya fat and youll be happy. I fear most folks dont get me when I just talk, but if you cook for them? everyone loves you.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Have you identified what about cooking really gets under your skin?

I love the results of cooking, even so it took a LONG time for me to not resist cooking as much as I used to. I still find it a challenge to motivate myself to do it sometimes.

For me the ambiguity and keeping track of where I am is especially challenging, so any recipe I keep gets written in a way that works for me - it's essentially a modified mis-en-place.

List of ingredients in the order they'll be used. Anything that appears twice (like 2 Tablespoons oil, divided) gets divided on the ingredients list so I know what goes where.

Then directions/sequencing, with each major step clearly separated from the previous step. Trying to read a paragraph while cooking is problematic at best. I also like to number the steps so it's easier to remember where I am.

For everything, ingredients and steps, I tack on the time it should take. Then I know in advance what to expect.

I think overall just planning and knowing exactly what you're going to do when you step in the kitchen is key - otherwise we kind of flop around.

for me, it's always been about reducing steps. possibilities can be mixed and matched:

  • starting from grocery shopping stage, choose more items that are partially or fully cooked. can be main protein/carbs like frozen chicken patties, sliced bread, or it can be side dishes like pickled vegetables.
  • also for raw ingredients, choose items that are pre-chopped or pre-sliced. Asian supermarkets have thin sliced meat intended for hotpot but they're also great sautéed or stir fried and Cook thoroughly in SECONDS. same goes for hotpot veggies.
  • many saucy dishes have condensed base version in jars. Japanese curry(non-spicy available) is sold in dry blocks that only require water and heat to become a rich comforting stew-like sauce. i also recommend Japanese blocks of "hayashi" sauce (beef & mushroom flavored thick sauce) and "cream stew"(can be used as a white gravy). these can even be used as pasta sauce. Italian style pasta sauce is also great. don't have to use with pasta. Cook it with protein and/or veggies then just add any carb when serving.
  • traditional processed foods are great! not ultra processed foods, think sausage, meatballs, tofu, cheese, dumplings (gyoza, pot stickers, dim sum), pickled veggies, etc. these examples usually only need minimal cooking/reheating if any. if there is a Korean market within range, they often sell giant jars of kimchi (even non-spicy) which may be enough to serve as main veggies for several meals (pickled, so just open jar and serve).
  • use appliances to take over steps. i.e. electric slicer, stand/hand mixer, slow cooker, air fryer, instant pot, or "as seen on tv" style or aliexpress/daiso style kitchen gadgets like choppers, salad spinners, etc. don't feel bound by using tools for only their original purpose! for example, instant pot is great at baking things while keeping them moist. that plus a quick broiler session in the oven makes for juicy roast meats!

these are just some tips based on how i cook and eat. i know not all the foods or techniques are applicable to everyone but hopefully this can help you abstractify and extrapolate to the foods that fit you and your environment.

some may not accept plating/serving these as true "cooking" but ultimately what's the importance of "cooking" other than making sure your loved ones have food?

[–] irotsoma@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

When I lived with a partner I we would usually make some bigger meals on the weekend and I would do most of the work, but she would help here and there to make it a bit interactive and thus more "interesting" from an ADHD perspective. That would be good for various meals through the week. Doing it together made it easier for me. She would then help to fill in the gaps. Still more burden on her than me for that particular task. But we balanced that out with other tasks.

When you have a partner who doesn't mind doing the some of the stuff you can't get your brain to allow you to do and then you do the things they aren't good at or don't like to do, it helps. IMHO you don't have to split each task evenly to make it fair as long you do different tasks that require a relatively equal amount of effort for the person doing it. Also, taking into consideration specialty tasks that would otherwise require hiring someone. Like I was able to do electrical work, computer repair, and some home repairs that she wouldn't even be able to touch, for example. Those took a lot of time and effort and saved either time and effort or money. That should be considered when thinking about equitably splitting chores.

We also didn't have the problem of gender role based task discrimination. Not sure if that's something you need to deal with, but neither of us were men and both didn't really prescribe to a gender role basis for types of chores, so there weren't really those tasks that one of us felt should be done by the other gender and thus not counted as chores to be split. Everything was on the table for equitable splitting.

Now that I live alone, it's a little more difficult, and I'm not good at cooking for myself, but at least it only affects me, not my current partner. So getting stuff for quick sandwiches for days I don't have the spoons is fine, but you can't expect a partner to make those sacrifices.

[–] elephantium@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Somebody's gotta do it, and it's not fair to my wife to make her do ALL the cooking.

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Which is why they are here asking for help. They probably are aware of the unfairness.

[–] elephantium@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Which is why I answered the question for what works for me.

If you think my free advice is unsatisfactory, I'm prepared to offer you a 100% refund.

[–] afaix@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I find something I crave enough to get motivated to follow a recipe, and make enough to eat for two days. Other times I do the simple things like pasta or miso soup from premade ingredients, or microwave potatoes. The simpler it is to make the better, preferably with a timerso I can just leave it until it’s done

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Meal prep as much as possible. If you hate cooking but realize it's got to be done, might as well cook double at a time so you can relax the next night.

It would help to know what types of cooking/foods you prefer if you want more specific shortcuts

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