Evangelical is the preferred nomenclature
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If you have to qualify it then you are the qualifier and not the other thing.
Maga christian... Youre just maga. Conservative christian... You are just conservative. Liberal christian... Just liberal.
If you are christian then be christian ahead of all other qualifiers. Pretty sure that's even in the ten condiments right before mustard but after ketchup and mayo.
Sounds like a win/win
Jesus was a pussy for caring about people.
- MAGA
MAGA literally thinks empathy is a negative human trait.
I read a book recently (I think the title was "Termination Shock") where right wing people in the US had a weird christian religion that portrayed Jesus as "weak" or "woke".
I saw a post on Reddit saying that Jesus was not a pacifist.
It's the bible. There are parts of it where he probably isn't. That's the beauty of the bible. You just gotta find that one verse to pander your views
Well he DID flip a table and whip a bunch of people this one time. That's not very pacifist of him.
What were those people doing
It was passover - when many people made a pilgrimage to what is now the Dome of the Rock, but at the time was The Second Temple - Jesus and disciples arrived to find it full of livestock and cattle traders and Money Changers (converting Roman denarri and Greek drachma into shekels).
It's significant because a) it represents the power of religion over commerce, and b) because it fulfills a prophesy earlier in the Bible
They had set up a (kind of) market inside of a church
Selling stuff in a church or something? I don't remember, but he didn't supposedly deal with it in a very pacifist manner.
Priest going on a rant during mass? Unheard of! Why can't they just sit down and do their job XD
Since they said "mass" and "priest", I'm guessing they're talking about a catholic church. I have been to a lot of catholic masses, and if my experience is anything like other people's experience, catholic priests seem to actively avoid political statements in their sermons. I'm sure political priests are out there, but I've been to a lot of different catholic churches all over america as a kid, and I never heard a political sermon.
Almost always, sermons are either about the specific bible passages for that day, or they're a story that the priest heard, or they're about a moral dilemma that the priest observed somewhere or made up, or they want you to donate money to something, and so the sermon is about how good that thing is or will be.
It wasn't until recently, when I was forced to watch some catholic masses on the internet, that I ever remember seeing any political sermons. And they were from a priest I think called Chris Alar, who also said that his family all advised him not to become a priest. When he told that story, I think he was implying that his family all thought he was far too stupid to get people to listen to him. But anyways, he talks a lot about politics and even argues with YouTube comments to his previous sermons during his sermon. He truly comes off like a pompous idiot, at least to me.
I finally got my mother to watch the priest I think called Mike Schmidt instead, who seems to give the typical catholic sermons that I grew up with.
Sorry for the detour, but my point is that I suspect the odds are good that this priest didn't actually say "ICE." He probably just talked about treating immigrants in the way that the Bible tells you to. I think it's this thing with bigots that when they hear somebody talking about bigotry in general, they somehow hear it like they were mentioned by name.
My experience is also that they try to avoid politics. However Catholic priests certainly talk about human rights violations, oppression, and racism. In today’s world it’s tough to talk about things like that that are clearly in their wheelhouse while trying to avoid politics
Political sermons are probably more common in poorer countries, I imagine. I'm from a poorer country and the Catholic masses I used to attend would have priests talk about social justice. I don't recall the priests singling out any particular politicians or groups but we all know who they are talking about. Maybe in the past, priests were more direct in criticism. The liberation theology movement in the latter half of the 20th century was instrumental in toppling many dictatorships. I think there were couple of Catholic priests who were assassinated for voicing out against dictators in Latin America.
I am from a poor country. Here, politics is never discussed in sermons. Sermons are either around Bible passages or some charismatic church talking about their miracles. Maybe cuz Christianity is a minority where I live and also there are state regulations. Although today's Christian youth where I live are inspired from American pastors so they have weird stances too like believing in conspiracy theories, hatred against Muslims, and etc. And also most of Christians are very poor like laborers, working in gutters, or doing very menial jobs and victim of forced conversions and discrimination, so there is barely any chance that sermons can be political. Many churches, after Oct 7, have stopped reading those psalms that mention Israel in order to avoid misunderstandings.
Jesus was famously a-political
I am an atheist and I also like watching Mike Schmidt.
Priest probably just said something like "be good to thy neighbours" and the maga extrapolated from there lmao.
Leviticus 19:33 and many others say the exact same thing.
Leviticus 19:33 commands, "When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them.
The illegal immigrant appears to face one of two options: work in slave like conditions for below minimum wage, or get deported.
Truth be told, I think the ice roundup is merely a spectacle. US business loves underpaid illegal immigrants with no healthcare. The US government loves it too because it reduces costs for whole industries, making everybody else somewhat better off. I do not believe the US will ever substantially reduce their use of illegal labor.
merely a spectacle
While I partly agree with you, this is more than a spectacle. Any sufficiently fascist politician needs a scapegoat, a group of “others” to focus hate and outrage. Immigrant are an easy target
On the opposite side, since they are clearly hypocrite, I can’t believe there hasn’t been more outrage over trumps attempt to raise fees for H1-Bs. For MAGAts, it’s a win-win. Either it cuts way back on companies willing to sponsor work visas or it provides the executive branch a new income stream where it thinks it doesn’t need Congress, like tariffs (don’t get me wrong, work visas probably ought to be tightened, but come on)
The goal now is to inflict pain. That's it. Cause issues with avg people, citizen or not, and expand the hatred for Trump's base. It's all a performance distraction while we're being robbed blind. None of this is necessary at all.
We have a demented president who loves attention and can't tell the difference between it being good or bad with so many yes men around him.
Everyone knows modern Christians only care about the portions of Leviticus that confirm their hatred for gay people.
Consider the work of Old Testament scholar James K. Hoffmeier, which has been embraced by the Center for Immigration Studies, an organization devoted to reducing immigration across the board.
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In Hoffmeier’s view, the duty to not oppress “strangers” (“ger”) found in Leviticus 19:33 does not apply unless a person already has gained legal approval to be within a nation’s borders. That “legal status” had to be obtained “from the appropriate authority in that particular culture” or else he or she remained a “foreigner” (“nekhar” or “zar”).
The problem with Biblical (and Rabbinical) scholarship is that people argue over this shit extensively and ad nauseum. Hell, the Talmud is just an extended historical account of these arguments (often highly pedantic and endlessly nuanced, turning on interpretations of definitions of terms used in historical observations).
You can come at a modern policy argument waving the Bible and find a dozen other people from every side of the debate doing the same.
because Jesus was depicted as conditional with his love
Jesus wasn't, but a bunch of the other prophets and apostles and saints and popes were.
yea, everyone who practices starts at where they are, and forces christianity to conform to their wants. its how we get supply side jesus.
this “jesus said to love thy neighbor REALLY means only the ones who are permitted to be there by the majorities ethnic cleansing. but i don’t bother checking, and just assume that the only ones that count as my neighbors are the same as me “ is frankly blasphemous. not that i care as i don’t practice. but i feel that if jesus died for our sins, its bad taste to use him as a sacrificial lamb to protect the feelings of bigots, and nazis. if people want to be bigots and nazis they should just say so and stop using jesus as a shield.
I can't tell if you're being serious or not.
Legal or not, treat people with decency. I was going to look up jeff sessions, but your link says it all. Use the Bible, twist words if you have to, to hurt your neighbor.
Let's sow hatred then act all surprised Pikachu when we get fucking wrecked. Of course Trump's dumb ass is involved.
Legal or not, treat people with decency.
Probably the most controversial suggestion within Christendom, going back to its Jewish roots. Do you treat people with dignity if they aren't a part of your clan? The various religious texts could not be more at odds with one another on this issue.
Let’s sow hatred then act all surprised Pikachu when we get fucking wrecked.
Internecine conflict has been a primary lever of social control since the earliest civilizations formed.
It goes down the same as the thousand before
No one's getting smarter, no one's learning the score
Your never ending spree of death and violence and hate
Is gonna tie your own rope, tie your own rope, tie your own
~ The Offspring, Come Out and Play
Still can't tell if you're being sarcastic, so ima leave it.
jesus, known for his bigotry and hatred, of course.
I've heard of churches that have been asked to stop doing the Sermon on the Mount due to concerns that it's "woke"
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I do find it interesting how many arguments I'll see online that rely on an idealized version of Christianity to make a point of Christianity, as though Christianity would be pure if people followed the "actual" morals. But like, this is what it is, they're talking about a Christian church in the United States of America and the argument is that if MAGAts followed that Christianity, they'd be following "real" Christianity. Christianity was an engine of colonialism and all of the genocidal violence within it; institutions are what they do, not what they say they want to do.
I think a lot of people don't realize that they're making conservative, revisionist narratives when they want to privilege hypocrisy in their arguments rather than morality.
I mean, it's just quoting what's in the new testament.
The hilarious irony is that Jesus was quite clear: the Law of Moses is eternal… therefore all the progressive christians have it wrong.
The whole “no you don’t have to get your dick chopped” thing comes from Paul… who directly contradicts Jesus on the matter.
Not even Paul said fuck all about slavery being wrong or women being actual people, and he had some very strong opinions on LGBTQ matters. (And Jesus was much worse.)
Not to mention that the early Christians were nothing like what came several hundred years later.
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