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There are 193 UN recognised countries, two UN observer states (the Vatican and the Palestinian Authority), and plenty of partially recognised or disputed countries. But what if there was more?

Leaving aside factors like natural resources, stability, population, etc., what countries do you want to exist, simply because it would be pretty neat? Joke answers are acceptable and encouraged.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I don't think any country needs to exist. We could have a government like The Federation in star trek where the entire Earth is the "country," if we didn't have hate and distrust of others and could actually share the planet equally.

[–] basic_user@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It won't get better until we at least have the same laws for all people. It shouldn't be an incentive to move production overseas just because those countries don't have minimum wage and uses children for labour. All people should get the same minimum care all over the globe.

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[–] freshfusion@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

World without borders, is the world without escape. Now we have different jurisdictions, which limits the reaches of power of governments. You can move to a country with less oppressive laws, or at least get news from there. Different jurisdictions makes things like TOR and VPN work for censorship circumvention and privacy.

Besides earth federation would subvert any diversity we as humanity have. I would prefer more small countries gaining sovereignty than big empires(federations) growing. Power should be decentralized, not the opposite.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Except in the current disorganized world we always just end up with one or two superpowers bullying the little governments and crushing all kinds of diversity anyway.

Also,

You can move to a country with less oppressive laws

That might work for the crafty and well-resourced individual who has a go bag and good OpSec and can actually hop borders and keep their heads down, but that sort of thing is nearly impossible for, like, a single parent working for a crap hourly wage, or an unhoused person dealing with an extended mental health crisis, or other more vulnerable people. Justice shouldn't depend on geography.

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

Besides earth federation would subvert any diversity we as humanity have.

You can have political / economic union but cultural diversity. In fact you can even have political and legal diversity among the subdivisions. There already are a bunch of countries that work like this, such as Malaysia, Nigeria and Belgium.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Only matters because of corruption and bad actors. Like I said, that kind of world would require a huge change to human nature itself to work. Whether it's 1 global government, or full anarchy.

[–] sbeak@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Let me rephrase the question, which countries do you want to exist? Post has been edited to clarify

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, I am a hard anarchist; I don't think any countries or borders should exist. But I am also a realist, and don't believe an anarchist utopia is really possible. Not without global human enlightenment, anyway.

[–] volore@scribe.disroot.org 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

frankly I think if everyone on the planet over a certain age took a heroic dose of mushrooms, just once, we could get about 90% of the way to global human enlightenment. A little ego death, as a treat.

Unfortunately, with the draconian laws against psychedelics (how dare you try and escape this reality when we've made it so pleasant!), this will almost certainly never come to pass.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 1 week ago

Think about how it would be if the president was like current POTUS.

[–] sbeak@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

That's fair enough, nationalism has been the cause of both world wars, as well as most conflicts around the world.

[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

North Africa. We have South Africa as a country, but not North Africa.

[–] sbeak@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Agreed. Same for South Macedonia, Western Timor, and Arctica.

[–] ladybugs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I’ll add Côte d’Noir and Old Zealand

[–] remon@ani.social 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Bavaria. But only to get them out of Germany.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Recognize these micro nations built on oil platforms or artificial reefs out in the middle of the ocean, like the Principality of Sealand.

It would basically be nonstop entertainment with all the stories of libertarian nutbars fucking each other over.

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 7 points 1 week ago

Siberia. Or, perhaps, a loose federation of states based on North Asian indigenous peoples. Ukraine had been lucky enough to get out of the russian empire eventually, but they're still stuck in there.

[–] Quokka@quokk.au 5 points 1 week ago
[–] AnalogAllamma@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] sbeak@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago

1, 2, 3, ah ah ah

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I would love it if the USA Balkanized

This would be lovely. And Canada. Freedom for Quebec.

[–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Cascadia!!!!!

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[–] lemmyng@piefed.ca 5 points 1 week ago

First nations, and any pre-colonization civilizations that were erased. Make people have to get paperwork for the entire venn diagram of nations depending on where they live.

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Wakanda, Krakoa, and Transia

You get tech goodies, safe haven, and fantasy goodies. Count me in (we'll ignore the Cthon risk if Transia was real. I'd take Cthon over Trump right now)

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[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Cascadia would be interesting. Washington, Oregon, California, maybe British Columbia too.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Oh how I wish

[–] sbeak@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago

As for me, I would like a republic governed by the penguins in Antarctica, because penguins are pretty cool! And maybe we can give the different aquatic species sovereignty over the ocean, because that would make international trade a lot more interesting.

As for countries run by humans, I would chop South Africa in half so we can create North Africa, it feels a bit mismatched otherwise. And all the little British and French bits scattered around the world should be independent, we would get a lot of extra countries! Except French Guiana, so we can still say that the longest land border of the French is with Brazil. At the very least, only the bits that don't touch Brazil can become independent (win-win situation in my opinion).

Quebec can do its own thing, and maybe some of the United States could become less united. There's not enough countries in continental North America. You could do the same with Brazil and Argentina too for South America, imagine, we could have so many more Guays along with Paraguay and Uruguay, maybe enough to complete the alphabet! Siberian Russia can be broken up, because it bothers me that there are many countries in Central, South, and East Asia, but only Russia in the North.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

countries shouldn't exist because borders are arbitrary racist bullshit

but also scotland should definitely not be part of the uk because scotland needs to be independent <3

[–] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

There is a wall, just needs a bit of a repair

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Scandinavia, provided the banter between the people remain

[–] 404@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Except for the Republic of Jamtland, a micronation in the middle of it

[–] sickday@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago
[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

I'll go old school.

Pellucidar.

The Earth is hollow and the people of Pellucidar only know of the surface world thanks to a few brave adventurers like Tarzan.

[–] Lexam@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

But Florida is already wacky enough.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Crimean Khanate: I want a horde-nation in modern times and I want it in Crimea.

Rojava: Is already a progressive, socialist, Kurdish, secular government with high anarchist influence in middle-east, imagine if they had rest of Kurdistan and independence.

[–] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] ArseAssassin@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago
[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

United federation of europe with a swiss government model and german decentralisation

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Arabian Peninsula needs to unify into one country for the purpose of hosting football world cups.

This thing with alternating between Qatar and then Saudi Arabia doesn't make sense. Neither of them have enough cities or stadiums for a proper World Cup. But together Saudi, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain and UAE could do it.

[–] Bonifratz@piefed.zip 3 points 1 week ago

I mean, nothing stops them from doing that now.

[–] BeefHouse@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Western Sahara.... The invisible Palestine

[–] Krusty@quokk.au 1 points 1 week ago

I think the world would be a lot better off without humanity.

None.

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[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

Vatican yes. Then Kosovo.

And I want Cyprus, Ireland, Korea united again. We in Germany had that luck. Others should also get the chance.

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