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[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 79 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

Secret to White Castle burgers is steaming the patty over onions on the pan/griddle and putting the bottom bun on while steaming.

Secret to McDonald’s burgers is salt pepper and a touch of msg.

Big Mac sauce is ketchup mayo touch of mustard and some relish

Popeyes chicken is just buttermilk marinated chicken coated with flour cornstarch and a touch of baking soda.

More wholesome fast food at home and it’s cheaper too

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 45 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Fast food at home takes a higher level of time and skill commitment. For fried chicken i gotta source all ingredients for the batter, make more than i need for the chicken to have adequate coatings, use a shitload of oil for a deep fry or buy a deep fryer, cook the chicken, then clean up the dishes and kitchen afterwards.

It is still defintely possible but many people working long shifts or overtime find it hard to do. My method for nearly any meal with more than 5 minutes of prep+cook time is to make lots of it, as you get more food per time invested that way and just eat it for a few days or freeze extra servings.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Almost every issue you're describing can be addressed with proper mise en place. Unfortunately, it's a skill that requires practice and can be improved by training. Teaching mise en place as a core skill in schools could help everyone with anything from cooking to home repair, but we apparently don't want people to know diy skills...

Anyway, here's a few tips:

  • For burgers: Find some frozen patties that you like. I really like Birchwood Beef Burgers (not beef patties, different products). I go with frozen so that I didn't feel pressured to eat more beef in a week than I want to, just because I bought it.
  • Also for burgers, but great for home cooking: Buy frozen, diced onions. An entire bag usually costs less than two onions. When you're about to flip your frozen burger patties, lay a small bed of frozen onions, sprinkle on salt and pepper, and flip the burger directly on them. This trick also works great with Morningstar veggie burgers.
  • Fried chicken marinating: Use a bag and insert a straw to create a small opening before you close the bag. Then, slowly submerge the bag in water while you seal it. Once your marinade starts going above the top of your seal, pull the straw out and seal your bag. This will substantially save on the volume necessary to marinate the chicken.
  • Fried chicken dredge 1: Add a little corn starch to your eggs. You can put the corn starch directly on your raw chicken, but that tends to lead to waste. The corn starch helps the eggs and batter stick. Don't worry about lumps. Chopsticks are great for mixing.
  • Fried chicken dredge 2: Use the chopsticks or a fork to dribble your dredge into your breading, then give it a slight mix. This will give your chicken a crispy texture.
  • Fried chicken breading 1: Mix your spices first. Keep it relatively simple. My favorite mix is plenty of salt, a little msg,, lots of garlic powder, little onion powder, white chili powder, black and white pepper, freeze dried chives. Add your flour to your spice blend, and taste it. Add flour until the spices give you just the right kick. The floury flavor will go away when it cooks, but it'll still dilute the spices, so the flavor profile shouldn't change much while the chicken cooks.
  • Fried chicken breading 2: Use a container that is deeper than you think you'd need; it's easier to conserve breading when you stack the chicken instead of spreading them out. Place all or as much of the chicken into the breading, coating and covering one piece at a time. Let them sit in there for a while before you start frying them. Fry in batches, you'll have to re-coat the chicken in the breading before frying the later batches. These will be extra crispy.
  • Fried chicken breading 2: Don't make too much. Make more if you need more and then dump it on top of the chicken laying in the breading, but you'll need far less than cooking videos will make you believe.
  • Fried chicken frying 1: Use a high temp oil, and don't let it get too hot. You can use a thermometer if you want, but sprinkling in some of your breading will let you know if you're at the right temperature. Instant bubbles that swell then subside, and then slowly turning brown is exactly what you want. If it bubbles slowly start and you don't notice a color change after 10-30 seconds, your oil isn't hot enough. If it bubbles rapidly and changes colors immediately, your oil is too hot. Give your oil a few minutes to reach temp, 3-10 should be good.
  • Fried chicken frying 2: I favor wider pans over deeper pans. You want the pan about 1 or 2 inches taller than the halfway point of your thickest piece of chicken. That extra 1-2 inches is to prevent your oil from spilling over. Even if your oil level doesn't quite reach halfway up your thickest piece of chicken, the oil will bubble and climb its way up your fried chicken. So, you'll likely be fine if you're under by as much as a quarter of an inch. I've used cake or pie pans and tongs on a hot plate to fry chicken, and it comes out great. My preferred pan is a deep saute pan.
  • Fried chicken frying 3: Keep a plate or something with a wire rack over it to drain your chicken after they're done. Sprinkle salt over the pieces immediately once the next round of chicken comes out of the fryer, you can move the chicken from the rack to a plate. Add soon as the last batch of chicken goes into the fryer, dump what little breading you have left into the trash, and then at least rinse the container. When you're done, allow the oil to cool completely, and then filter it through some coffee filters. If you kept the oil at a good temperature, you should get one or two more uses after it.

If you follow the fried chicken tips correctly, you should have used:

  • 1 ziplock bag
  • 1 straw
  • 1 pair of chopsticks
  • 1 bowl
  • 1 container
  • 1 oil frying thing
  • 1 funnel
  • A few coffee filters
  • 2 plates
  • 1 wire rack

If you clean as you go, your kitchen should be clean (except for the still-hot oil in the pan or fryer or whatever) before you bring the chicken to the table. That'll give it enough time to rest and be juicy as fuck instead of drying out the instant you bite into a steam bomb.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

An air fryer goes a long way, I don't see much difference in terms of crispyness compared to regular oil frying and it's a lot less cleanup and work.

[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I use an air fryer to reheat fried chicken. Are you using it for the initial cook too?

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[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

More than one hour of hourly wage for a single meal. Or more than one hour of work for multiple homemade meals? I’m going with more than one hour of work for multiple meals. But you do you

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This ignores the skill portion. I might ruin 3 meals before i make something edible that my body actually wants me to keep eating. I also keep coupons and know the local deals, my avergae fast food order ends up being about 30 minutes worth of wages. And tbh my work doesnt have a proper lunch break so I'm often still getting paid for 15-20 minutes i spend ordering and eating. It is still a loss compared to bringing food, which i usually do, but its not a massive loss.

Part of my problem as well is i dont work a defined shift and often end up spur of the moment working late. So if I pull something out to defrost or start soaking beans in the morning. Working ovetime can delay my cooking time from 5 pm to 8 pm, often cutting into the time i should be going to bed or getting other important shit done. I do meal prepping to help mitigate this but then im often eating the same lunch and dinner for 3-4 days straight, which can get difficult on the pallete.

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[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Chick Fil A chicken is marinated in pickle juice before deep frying.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Secret to McDonald's is salt, pepper, and a touch of MSG

I work at MacDonald's and the seasoning shakers ingredient list (because the spices come already mixed) contain a lot more than just those 3 things.

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Because they add extra stabilizers and preservatives. Try it at home and the patties will taste the same.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

It also has cumin, onion, and garlic powder in it.

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[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Also check out Jordan the Stallion on YouTube for all the fast food secrets.

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[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Someone show "Pulp Fiction" to a Gen Z and ask them what they think about the $5.00 milkshake

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

$5 in 1994 = $11.27 in today's money. I'm not from the US, is that egregious or standard today?

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The official inflation counter is nonsense.

Do a quick search of actual 1994 prices if you don't believe me.

And $12.00 is what you'd spend at a high end restaurant or hotel for a 2026 milk shake.

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[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

More than I would pay for one

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

A large pizza now costs over $20.

[–] krisevol@lemmus.org 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That's a deal. Most pizzas in my area at 30-40 per large.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It astounds me how drastic prices vary in the US.

Like sure, we (Australia) also have higher and lower cost areas, but the difference is not this staggering.

$40 USD for a large pizza? You've got to be kidding me.

And I'm betting there will be places in the US where the same is like $12-15 for the same quality/quality, right?

That's nuts.

[–] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Theres a massive difference between the boonies, a medium city, a large city, and an affluent city, and a huge difference between those places in california, texas, utah, colorado, ohio, georgia, etc.

Every state is basically a country of its own, and about the size of one

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[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I know it isn't the best, but a certain D pizza chain is kind of king for a pizza quick fix without breaking the bank.

Place near me was charging $40 for a pizza and I just can't.

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[–] dudeface@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (10 children)

I don’t why everyone hasn’t stopped eating out and just cook at home these days

$25 can get me the ingredients for 20 hamburgers

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The hell it can with these hamburger meat prices.

[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I know, right? 1lb of hamburger is around $8 for me. I buy ground turkey instead. It's generally leaner and I get it for $10 for 3lbs. It doesn't taste exactly the same, but I like it and it's way cheaper.

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[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Some people were never taught how to cook. Some people have messy room mates leaving the kitchen nearly unusable. Some people work unexpected overtime and have their shift run longer and into another meal time. Some people struggle to find the time to cook and clean up for themselves.

The only way I manage to eat decent throughout the weekdays is by doing lunch and dinner prep during my sundays. Its takes a lot of planning sometimes to ensure i have enough ingredients and i often don't get to recreate as much as id like on my weekends.

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

$25 can get me the ingredients for 20 hamburgers

No it cannot. 10 would be a large stretch, let alone 20.

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[–] Danarchy@lemmy.nz 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

To recreate a McGangbang these days it’s upwards of $50, same as in town

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 weeks ago

Back in my day, you could buy a single McDonald's cheeseburger for 39¢ on sale or 75¢ regular price. Adjusted for inflation, that's 77¢/$1.48 now. Now they average at nearly $4.

[–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 9 points 3 weeks ago

It's only normalized if you buy it.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

The $25 burger is shit.

Burgers, in general, are shit.

What makes them good is the bang for buck. The concept is in their design. Some good shit between buns, allowing it to be consumed faster than a traditionally segmented dish. If you have time, wallet, and dignity, you take the dish. If not, you just get the chef to shove it between buns and serve it up.

If a burger is not doing those things, it is not a burger. It is a shit burger. Arguably it's so shit, it's an expensive burger-themed dish.

I don't hate or love burgers. I'm just a realist.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Burgers, in general, are shit.

I don't hate or love burgers. I'm just a realist.

Sounds like you don't like them. Which is an affront to food everywhere.

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[–] Godric@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

"4 for $100" is a wild sentence for anything not steak, much less smashburgers (fries are a separate order) made by hipster dickheads with tribal tats and 1800s mustaches

[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Goddamn a decade ago we'd go out to a bar that had burger night and the deal was a draft pint, and a burger with fries for $8, and those were legit burgers.

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[–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Ah, yes, I'll have the quarter hundred biller.

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago

What does this person think cost of living is?

[–] Brumpy69@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And that toothed dude trying to normalise the high price of hotel rooms on the ad.... Did you check? You didn't check! You gotta check!

[–] DonkeyStar@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

I’m not going to use Trivago, but I love that commercial. My wife and I will do grinning impressions at each other while trying not to move our faces.

[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Well the dollar is pretty much worthless so…

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hamburgers are supposed to be 25$ (well, money is made up and a price is only relative but you get what I mean). Beef is expensive as fuck to grow. Between time, land, water, food, raising a cow is an endeavor, it might be one of the hardest food sources to grow that we have, and that's even with raising them locked in a cell their whole life, which we should try not to do.

I think the 25$ hamburger is a good thing, it reflects the real cost of beef. The only reason it's been low is because we subsidize the cattle industry immensely, and we used to do it more. It's also because demand has gone down and supply has followed, the more people eat vegetarian the more a hamburger will be priced like the luxury it should be.

And to be fair, I know that our crops of cattle feed were ruined by the tariffs and the straight closing, I would bet the increased cost is preempting the expected downfall of these crops in the coming years.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

You're right about the real cost, but this isn't normalization of cost - beef production is still as high as ever and is still being subsidized with tax dollars, and the difference in price is being pocketed by meat companies while taxpayers eat the production cost. It's the tariff refund problem again.

This situation is the worst of all possible worlds.

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