Kids these days never play outside!

Holy shit is that a kid outside? Better call the fucking cops.

True story. I took a city bus to the library, by myself, when I was 6 years old. This trip included a transfer.
Still here 63 years later ...

What’s wrong with people. Don’t these kids have PlayStations? Why do they need to play outside?

I want to know if all these calls were from different people or from the same busybody. If the latter, then the real police involvement ought to be going after that person for harassment.

The combination of not giving kids independence then complaining how teens and young adults are dependant on their parents is diabolical.

I often look at the independence that kids and teens are given in other countries and wish that I could have been given that sort of a childhood. I seriously think I wouldn't be as socially inept as I am today if I had that.

There was a documentary a few years ago about a German correspondent in the US. She let her teenage kids have the same freedoms as in Germany: roam the neighborhood, bike to school etc. The neighbors called CPS on her when the kids were in the street and the school talked to her that her kids weren't allowed to come by themselves, she HAD to drive them.

This is the fourth time I've read a story about kids being arrested for being outside.

America really is a country where you were not allowed to be outside unless you're in a car.

Liability Hot Potato

1. Caller doesn't want to accept liability just in case Something Happens to the kids.

2. Call-taker doesn't want to accept liability just in case Something Happens to the kids.

3. Comm. Center supervisor doesn't want to accept liability just in case Something Happens to the kids.

4. Dispatcher doesn't want to accept liability just in case Something Happens to the kids.

5. Patrol supervisor doesn't want to accept liability just in case Something Happens to the kids.

6. Patrol LEOs don't want to accept liability just in case Something Happens to the kids.

The end product of this bureaucratic nightmare is harassment-by-proxy, where the cops show up to tell a lady kids aren't supposed to play outside and everyone gets to go home not feeling like they were responsible for the insanity.

- Ex-cop, occasionally insisted on not responding to ridiculous calls that got cancelled when I pressed the issue, was eventually fired

There are really no spaces for kids or teens do anything anymore which is crazy. Then if they are playing outside it is also an issue.

In the 70s, every kid in the he area knew every other kid. The mother's all knew each other or at least had phone numbers. Weekends and summers we would go play all day, sometimes in 1 house. The whole neighborhood looked out for all of us. If a mother needed to find a kid, just start calling the list of mothers. Regardless,when the streetlights came on, that was the signal to go home.

No one questioned it. That's the way it was. We would play football in the streets and move aside for cars. We would drink from the garden hose. Every kid played.... There was even one kid missing a leg who used a fake limb, we let him at football with the rest of us (granted he played line), but he was one of us.

Miss those days

Bala Cynwyd

Makes sense. Philly suburbs are full of busybodies. Usually they’re complaining about having moved next to a farm.

Lots of people not reading the article (me neither!) So i posted it here. My biggest question is why are all these people calling the cops? What is the other side of the story? Is Fox News fanning a moral panic about child trafficing?

A Pennsylvania Mom Says the Cops Were Called on Her 4 Times—for Letting Her Kids Be Outside

State lawmakers are mulling a law that would establish commonsense protections for families that give their children a reasonable amount of independence.

Lenore Skenazy | 7.30.2026 6:30 AM

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Whenever Ms. Gordon lets her sons go outside now, she cleans house. "All right, my kid just went around the block to his friend, let me sweep," she says. "Because I know if the house is clean, that's the first step toward making a good impression on Child Protective Services. It's a bizarre thought process, but—"

But not completely irrational. Gordon (who asked not to use her first name) has had the cops called on her four times for letting her sons, 5, 7, and 9, walk and play outside in Bala Cynwyd, a suburb of Philadelphia. Reason reviewed several private messages Gordon exchanged with friends corroborating her version of events.

The first time was about 18 months ago.

"I was puttering around in the garden," says Gordon. "The kids were around the corner, but they were never more than a few hundred feet away."

She'd given the boys her phone to play Pokemon Go, the game where you find Pokemon nearby using virtual reality. "They said a woman called to them and said, 'Are you lost?'" Gordon says. "And they ignored her because they were very busy. And she must've called the police."

The boys were already almost home when the police pulled up. "My son [6 at the time] insisted on describing the whole Pokemon thing to this poor cop who I think decided to cut the visit short because of that."

Incident No. 2 involved Pokemon again.

Gordon was in the little gym across the street from her home with two of her kids. One was in a soccer program, so the youngest, 5, asked to go out to the sidewalk to catch some more Pokemon. Gordon said he could for a few minutes.

"He performed perfectly," says Gordon, and soon came back in. So did a woman who spoke to Gordon about seeing the child unattended. Either before or after this, the woman apparently called the cops. A cop arrived soon after.

Gordon told the cop she didn't think her son had been in any danger. The cop agreed. When he left, Gordon followed him outside and saw him telling the woman and another man in the parking lot, "'No, there's nothing further I can do. There's no signs of abuse or neglect.'" Concluded Gordon, "They wanted me arrested or something."

Note that while it's becoming unusual to see kids as young as 5 outside on their own, psychologists say that, developmentally, kids are ready to walk to school by that age.

In Incident No. 3, Gordon was walking around the neighborhood with her 5- and 7-year-old. The older boy wanted to go home, the younger one wanted to keep walking. So she told the 7-year-old he could walk back by himself. That meant he had to cross a couple of streets quiet streets he was already allowed to cross.

When he got to his corner, some pickleball players asked if he was lost. He said no. They asked him where he lived. "He pointed to our house because you could see it from the corner," says Gordon.

He proceeded there. And at some point afterward, so did the police. This time Gordon's husband spoke to them. "I don't know the exact conversation, because I wasn't there," she says. "But basically it was like, 'Yes, he's 7. He's allowed to walk up the block and around the corner by himself. He's even allowed to go the playground by himself. I mean—it's right there.' And the cop was like, 'Yeah, I don't see anything here to worry about.'" Case closed.

Then somehow came Incident No. 4. Gordon and her 5- and 7-year-old were walking a few blocks to go put books in a little free library. On the way home, along the local commercial avenue, there's a plastic elephant in front of a car dealership that the 7-year-old likes to "ride." His mom discourages this.

On this trip, she and her younger son were partway down the block while her 7-year-old had stayed behind at the elephant. Her younger son had to go to the bathroom. So Gordon continued down the block, hoping this would help the older boy learn the natural consequences of his dawdling. He yelled at his mom to wait; she yelled back for him to catch up. But she wasn't worried, because even if he didn't, he's taken this walk hundreds of times before. And each time she turned around, there he was—a block behind her.

Mom and younger son got home, as did the elephant-rider a few minutes later. But a few minutes after that, a cop arrived, too, saying, "'I heard a report about a kid who looked lost by the BMW dealership.'"

"So it occurs to me that the person [who called the cops] must've followed us home," says Gordon.

First of all: Let's hear it for the cops who refused to escalate these calls into anything more than a check-in and goodbye. But then let's think about what it means when anyone with a phone can set the power of the state in motion.

The problem, Gordon points out, is that when you have more than one kid, you simply cannot helicopter parent. For instance: What if you have a few that want to stay at the playground and one who needs to run home? (Exactly the situation Kansas mom Shaley Knickerbocker found herself in—and had the cops called on her.)

When she thinks back to her own childhood in Brooklyn, says Gordon, "The best memories I have are being away from adults." Going to the library or store—even building a little clubhouse in an old widow's bushes.

Now the Pennsylvania Legislature is considering a Reasonable Childhood Independence bill that would establish commonsense protections for families like Gordon's.

Currently, Pennsylvania's child neglect law is broad. It says parents must provide "proper" care. "But the word 'proper' is vague and it invites bias and subjectivity,'" says Kathleen Creamer, managing attorney of the Family Advocacy Unit at Community Legal Services of Philadelphia.

House Bill 1873 would amend the definition of neglect to exclude age-old independent activities, like walking to school, playing outside, or being home alone for a reasonable amount of time. The bill advanced out of committee in late 2025 and awaits further action from state lawmakers.

Gordon and her husband bought their house because it is across the street from a playground. She wants her kids to have a healthy, happy childhood—running errands, riding their bikes, and playing, without the threat of government intervention.

After all, she says: "What's the point of living across from a playground if my kids can't go there?"

Its always a neighbor who hates kids. More to the point they can't stand kids playing and having fun. I've had calls from the city on a few occasions for fixing my own car in my driveway. I know who is doing it. Its a elderly woman with a mid forties autistic son who is at her beck and call. I fear for that hateful young man when she passes. I had the hood off my car fixing something close to the firewall and he stood in front of my driveway with a really cheap fiip phone taking photos. I started to call the police but figured it wouldn't result in anything useful.

I’m so blessed to live in a city and country that encourages kids independence! At 4yo, my oldest feels comfortable being out of view in the playground and in safe areas, I expect him to walk home from school on his own in some 3 more years.

When I first read about some parents allowing their kids to be "free range", I had a hard time wrapping my brain around the amount of harassment they were getting, because being "free range" in the mid-00s sounded like what nearly all prior generations (older Gen Y and older) operated under as kids, but just now some kind of anomaly instead of the bog-standard norm.

As someone that is Gen X and grew up in a very rural area, and who spent most of their free (summer/weekend) days almost completely unsupervised, starting somewhere around 8 years old, I find it wild that the cops are now called on seeing such things...I realize things change - I'd say it's generally for the better these days, TBH. The views on safety back then for everyone, including children, were pretty much shit.

But still, you think there should be some kind of balance...

sounds like a karen on nextdoor.

My mom took me to school for kindergarten, after that I walked. But, I didn't walk alone, I walked with a group of kids of different ages. It wasn't organized, it just happened. I'd wait for the kids to pass my house, and join them, a few friends from first grade would be mixed in. The group would grow as we got closer to the school, by the time we got to the crosswalk there were probably fifteen to twenty of us.

This was the early 70s in suburbia, all the kids in the neighborhood at least knew of each other because everyone was outside all summer long, and of course we went to school together. The school was right in the middle of the neighborhood, and only four blocks from my house.

For as much as people bash suburbia, I have fond memories of growing up there. Ultimately I think most of our woes as society stem from capitalism, we just don't see it. It's not that car culture allowed for sprawl, it's that capitalism required us to drive into the city every day to make a living, to earn slave wages. Work from home, or from smaller, distributed locations has been viable for 80 years, apart from factories that make complicated products, but they want us all together for the same reason they don't want us working from home now. It's greed, hubris, and their deep desire to be worshiped by their worker bees. They want to stand on a platform, hands on hips looking over their mini-fiefdom, and admire what "they've" accomplished.

When I was 9 my friends and I would ride our bikes miles from home on a regular basis.

Having kids outside will mess with flocks data set