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This happens so much, their is a name for it "Family annihilation" or Familicide. It's almost always the patriarch who does this. Women do it too, Andrea Yates comes to mind, but that's much more rare.
I've always found it interesting that while men do familicide often, we forget about it. (Psychology Today puts the rate at 1 every 5 days in the US) Meanwhile women who do the crime like Yates or Smith become notorious for decades. Admit it, you've forgotten the name Kristopher Karolkiewicz from the article you just read, but you remember Susan Smith from 30 years ago.
Nah, I don't remember any of them.
I don’t remember any of their names, even the ones you wrote.
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I'll never understand a man's reasoning for doing that. How can one be an arbiter over the lives of your partner and kids...
It's a disturbingly prevalent mindset really. The idea that the patriarch, the pater familias, literally owns the family. That his wife and children are possessions to do with as he pleases. In ancient Rome it was litteral. He could kill them if he wished. Not even unique to Rome. Its still around today. A sick aspect of conservative ideology that persists and infects society the world over.
Its the sickening undercurrent to conservative "parents rights" arguments.
While Lemmy loves their memes and jokes about the government and the economy, this is what real world stress results in. I'm sure they will find a rich online life for this guy and recent financial trouble.
For every 1% increase in unemployment, 40,000 people die in a country with no social net. That's what a shit hole is.
Ironically I just went through a deep dive about this guy reading multiple news sources and they all say he recently lost his job as a vp for the sales department of the American heart association.
So yeah. Dude was stressing and I get it but, fuck. So much unnecessary death just because people willingly vote against their own self interests.
We don't know that's the reason this man killed his entire family and himself. He was undoubtedly an asshole though.
In many if not most cases of family annihilation, it's a loss or perceived loss of social or financial status. Dad or Mom or whoever can't stand the idea of their kids growing up poor (or even just slightly less rich) and decide to not only take themselves, but everyone with them "to spare them the pain".
"reasoning" is not going to be the right word for whatever was going on in this guy's head.
That seems like a dangerous way of thinking. You can't ever hope to stop something if you refuse to understand it.
Eh, you can still analyse it, but it's the kind of analysis a clinical psychologist might do.
✨**patriarchy**✨
Was she going to divorce him or something? These pieces of shit always lose their minds over women leaving.
Its usually caused by either that or money. Says she was a substitute teacher.
I bet it was money related.
Probably divorce and “taking” his money for child support.
Leaving an abuser is the most dangerous time for victims.
Amanda Karolkiewicz was a substitute teacher, children’s book author and advocate for special needs children, NBC affiliate WDIV of Detroit reported.
“Our daughter Mandy was a kind and devoted soul who loved her family and her students,” her parents told WDIV. “We treasured every moment we had with her and her six children, and words cannot adequately express our devastation.”
He should’ve shot himself first.
"Amanda Karolkiewicz was a substitute teacher" as someone who substitutes while unemployed I can say it does not help much. They make it sound nice but more than likely she would have liked a full time position. No mention of the fathers job situation. It could be the typical thing but with the us having dumped on what few bits of help low income people have I kinda wonder.
I realise that it was probably him, but there's no evidence presented in the article that the husband actually did it.
I agree, but what's really weird for me is this part:
he wouldn’t say whether a firearm has been recovered from the fire-damaged residence
Yet the autopsies show that they were all shot. I imagine that the autopsies also show that he was the one to do it based on time of death, but odd that the article doesn't present that evidence.
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