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film industry specifically killed the careers of many young writers by outsourcing shoots and not keeping them onset and fucking them over streaming royalties, and now people shit on them for writing "cringe"? that's fucked up.
in my humble opinion Backrooms is best enjoyed by waiting for a torrent
It was a very mid movie. Felt so video-gamey that several scenes felt more like a Let's Play walkthrough than a movie.
Video games used to be influenced by movies, but nowadays it seems that many movies are influenced by video games, complete with dumbed down exposition and an obsession with every minute detail having to have "lore."
It sucks.
Yeah, the video game influence on movies is driving me crazy. The stupid deal was 'if you want a good story, watch a movie instead of a game' and then the shitty game stories are starting to invade the movies and people are saying they're good, actually.
Although I'd be curious if anyone else here thinks there's a difference or not between ARG stuff and video game stories. Video game stuff feels more like comic book characters with lore and mechanics tacked onto the narrative whereas the ARG stuff is more like pastiche/collage-based since it's by/for younger people who haven't had time to develop their own style yet, lore-first with characters and dialogue only begrudgingly added, and focused on lots of disjointed, edgy visuals or poetry in some form.
ARGs don't have to have a video component, that's just a scavenger hunt
lore
Five Nights at Freddie's and it's consequences
right? wake me up when the base is shaping and influencing the superstructure again
an obsession with every minute detail having to have "lore."
It sucks, but this probably came mainly either from certain types of genre fiction or movies like Star Wars
Aww but why would you steal from le wholesome underdog indie millionaire 
And The Blair Witch Project before that.
If I may, I think the weird discourse is because they adapted a film from a weird collaborative internet fiction thing, which is a new quantity in an industry as crusty as hollywood. I'm also now convinced that the yapping about "GEN Z IS SAVING THEATRES" is all wishfully-thinking puff pieces...
I hate to inform you that Paranormal Activity came out almost 20 years ago.
Yah I figured it was about that
I'm anything but a backrooms fan but I particularly enjoyed this movie. I think it's best appreciated coming from the perspective that the backrooms is one of those ownerless shared fiction universes that almost never get adaptions with any sort of budget behind it for obvious reasons, much less when they have very niche or novel premises like 'noclipping out of reality to end up in procgen horror hallways'
I was keen to watch it because it made me fantasize that we might get some decent money behind an SCP project one day, they feel like very similar universes in how they have evolved.
and horror movies don’t have to be much more than a vibe.
Will I ever click on a substack article and not reget it?
I have no ability to take anything someone says seriously when they label stuff "millenial" or "boomer". It's such a lazy trope. This is isn't meant to invalidate how you feel about it, I hope it's not received like that, but calling stuff "cringe" or "millenial" is so childish I can't even get really mad at it. Might as well call it "poopy" or a "doodoofart" or whatever.
idk i think "boomer is a mindset" has got some legs
I think the difference there is concept of the “boomer mindset” is built around the economic conditions of the mid-late 20th century and the outlook it fostered. Whereas the “millennials vs zoomer vs alpha” distinctions mostly boil down to “their dumb brainrot, our iconic memes.”
I think my beef comes because it's like if you hated Amazon and criticized it for years, but everyone decided you were the person who totally loved Amazon and was like "Hey this movie you like is actually us Amazon haters saying fuck you, Amazon guy! Hah! We're sticking it to the man, who is you by the way! Are you mad, Amazon guy?"
To me that reads like my three-year old declaring that I like to "eat poop" while I have to make sure he doesn't wipe his poopy butt on the diaper changing station. On reflection our current big topic is insults and hurting others with words in general so I think I just automatically go into a parental "lets name our emotions" mode and don't take it seriously at all. Which is not helpful to you I realise, sorry.
my three year old declaring that I like to "eat poop" while I have to make sure he doesn't wipe his poopy butt on the diaper changing station
Fucking lol that kid rocks
He really does I asked him whate he ate that made his poops smell especially offensive today and without batting an eye this kid tells me he ate "stinky powder" to make his poops more stinky 
the director is 21 or something, not a millenial
I believe that the author is aware of that and it's a basic premise of the article.
No more obssession backrooms stanning time to watch the zendaya trilogy (odyssey spider man dune)
Odyssey and Dune are fine enough but I'll pass on Spider man. I got tired of superhero movies ten years ago about as hard as I'm getting tired of horror.
The capitalist mantra of just overstaurating the market with a single type of movie after a certain genre gets popular needs to die
Those aren't comparable categories at all. It's fine to not like horror but it's a very broad genre.
Im watching it because netease is giving you free skins if you watch spider man
Mary, the therapist — played by Norwegian Renate Reinsve, inexplicably opting to play Mary as vaguely Latina — is the only character outside of Clark to get more than five minutes of screen time in Backrooms.
What did he mean by this? Is there something she did or said that was 'vaguely latina'? I might have missed that.
Who the hell knows. Something something I'm 14 and this is deep, something something are Millennials killing da poopoopeepee industry?
This whole character smacks of latina.
She has the exaggerated swagger of a latina or something
Also disagree about Weapons being better-realized than Barbarian. Barbarian at least had a pretty clear social critique of privatized housing and cops and ends pretty crisply under than lens whereas Weapons isn't really about anything. I've seen it described as an attempt a modern folk horror, but that's just a description of the structure/genre and not the substance.
isn't really about anything
Bewildering to see this become the go-to comment to lob at a movie that beats the audience over the head so much. I encourage you to rewatch it & notice how completely checked-out everyone in the suburbs is to the point where they don't notice a witch trap house, the homeless guy, how the situation is minimized by the (pleasant & well-meaning) principal, etc
When the director says he put a floating gun dream sequence 'just because' it's easy to assume the rest of it is the same, especially when the nature/mystery of the witch trap house is presented as the focus over anything you've described. It's been awhile since I've since it so I don't remember the side characters much. I'm imagining if Zone Of Interest presented the holocaust camp as its own mystery box while trying to say it's about suburban disinterest.
Also, try to make an argument without being a smuglord on here, please.
When the director says he put a floating gun dream sequence 'just because'
Big fan of lying like this (not saying the quote is inaccurate)
Funny contrast to something like Saw pretending it has a message. Or idk pretending VVitch was some kind of subversion
Obsession
Some of my European friends were raving about how great this was. I checked the reviews and it seemed to agree with them so I put aside some time recently and watched and all I can say is it was just bad. The camera work, the lighting, the writing was all bad. The acting was good (especially Inde Navarrette) but was heavily kneecapped by there being no discernable characters to speak of but simply vessels for plot to happen to. I heard all this praise of how groundbreaking it was tackling all these serious issues (like consent and loss of agency) but then the closest it got was referencing these ideas and then moving on to the next schlocky horror checklist moment. I was really disappointed.
Sorry for the rant but this movie (mostly the discourse around it) has just been annoying me since I saw it.
OK so I'm not the only one noticing the weird glazing of "pretty good but nothing really new" horror movies coming out and any criticism being declared jealous cope?
Probably doesn't help that I'm as burnt out on horror as I am Marvel slop I tend to find most of the genre very samey in general and not usually very scary.
I'm also scared that they're going to ruin the SPC Foundation when this horror trend inevitability gets too many executive fingers in the pie and we end up with them doing the "OK these are the boxes needed to be ticked for success now, let's do it 500 times". Because Hollywood has already said they're now scraping internet horror stories for ideas.
OK so I'm not the only one noticing the weird glazing of "pretty good but nothing really new" horror movies coming out and any criticism being declared jealous cope?
A lot of people are really desperate for mainstream good movies that are shared cultural experiences, and in the absence of any more than one a year at best they're just pretending that anything new, thats somewhat different from the slop factory they're used to, is completely groundbreaking
Compounded by most people nowadays being critically illiterate and terrified of being judged by social media panopticon if they look stupid so just defaulting to excessive praise to prove they got it in the absence of anything more to say about it.
any criticism being declared jealous cope?
The fact that to my understanding Curry Barker was a B-tier internet comic who established a rather rabid fanbase probably contributes a lot in this case.
pretty good but nothing really new
Too high praise for a movie that I would say failed both technically and thematically.
My read was that Weapons was a very pained allegory for how alcoholic parents can end up traumatizing their kids. There's a lot of alcohol imagery and a bunch of instances of children being forced into caring for adults.
Very unfair to Weapons which I felt had a really clear point
My view is that Weapons had a bunch of ideas kinda' thrown at the wall that mostly cancel out. So where I'm seeing it as a meaningless mess others are picking out one or two of those ideas and saying I missed them or don't appreciate them. Like, the metaphor of all the kids disappearing from the class except one seems like an obvious school shooting metaphor and yet the rest of the movie doesn't do anything with that, instead it's an individualized account of a cursed family. Maybe I'd appreciate it more with another rewatch.
I thought it was pretty clear that Weapons was about the harm alcoholism has on children, and the filmmaker has said this is the case. I do remember thinking it was a school shooting metaphor, but I think that was just because that was what was in the news cycle at the time in America. The movie is Australian, right?
Weapons was directed by the Gallon of PCP guy from Whitest Kids U Know. If you want to understand the political perspective it was written from, WKUK is not subtle
The sets were pretty cool
Yeah the movie is fine, but man is the weird generational discourse surrounding everything at the moment getting old
I am wondering the same. The new generation is creating content spontaneously it is human creation <3. Try to ask parents of teenagers they tend to get some lexique.