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[–] j5y7@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 hour ago

Can I get paid 6+ figures to fuck up this badly with magical thinking?

[–] art@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago

This is the modern "all my apes gone"

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Am I reading this right that they're still letting the program run even as they figure out how badly it fucked up their system?

[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 59 minutes ago

They have no idea what else to do. They were in over their head so long before this problem happened.

[–] austin@piefed.social 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I tried looking for more of these the other day. If anyone has more I'd love to see them.

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

https://casp.ac/__l5e/assets-v1/8e5796ad-c373-4dea-8470-466263cd2125/ai-enabled-terrorism-report.pdf

We saw in a movie how motorcycles can jump over bridges. We used AI to learn how to do this. We gave it information, like what motorcycles we use and the distance we need to jump and so on and it gave us steps on what we have to do. We practiced a lot and kept asking questions. We dug holes and filled them with broken glass and fire to practice. 18 of us died in the process. Eight of us managed to do it. The next time we attacked, we could jump.

Grain of salt: these people probably lied to the researchers but it is still hilarious

[–] fdnomad@programming.dev 37 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Giving production credentials to an LLM is wild

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Seriously, has no one heard of sandboxing?

[–] python@lemmy.world 4 points 44 minutes ago (1 children)

Yeah, when my company first forced Claude on everyone the head engineers managed to negotiate that Claude would only run in a WSL sandbox. But people were lazy, so they just gave that WSL as many permissions as possible (Mounting C directly to it, opening up all interfaces, popping in full-access git tokens etc.). Then management sent out an extremely biased "survey" that has the question "Is having Claude in the WSL inconvenient to you?" and all the lazy bastards said yes. So now management lifted the sandboxing requirement to make work "easier" for devs. In the meantime, the engineers arguing for proper sandboxing are already so worn out from telling people to not intentionally compromise their sandbox that they've kinda just given up. Not having a sandbox at all isn't much more insecure than whatever people are already doing 🫠

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 25 minutes ago

I hope they have a good backup and recovery solution

So, earlier today I was being unhealthy on youtube, and someone half my age made a HUGE point to tell his audience including me that even if a self-driving Tesla runs a red light, it's the human driver that gets the ticket.

Now...I'm a pilot. I have been since I came in that guy's mom. In the aviation community, we have this concept called Pilot In Command. In the US, this is set into law in 14 CFR 91.3. The pilot in command of an aircraft is fully responsible for, and is the final authority as to, the operation of that aircraft. Not the administrator, not your instructor, not air traffic control, not the President of the United States, not god, the PIC. That concept doesn't exist in driver's ed, but it needs to. We need to teach student drivers about the Driver In Command responsibility.

Too long, didn't process the metaphor: Nobody thinks about anything they do unless the law requires it.

[–] mcheva@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 2 hours ago

I don't really see how fist fighting Arabs helps.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Having working production database config and credentials in your local .env, as appears to be the case here, is equally wild, and basically begging for something like this to happen.

[–] fdnomad@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

For sure, its the same mistake. Maybe an LLM makes it more likely to result in consequences

[–] aristarchusnull@lemmus.org 10 points 6 hours ago

“You are a world-class, expert software engineer…”

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 13 points 6 hours ago

But.. but… I told it not to break anything!

[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 34 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Some time ago I worked for an insurance rating company as a tech and the task was given me to go run through the new code that was in beta. Sure ! I spent a few hours on Friday trying to break it and I couldn't, so at the end of the day I got a little funky with the .css backgrounds and put in a very tiled Beavis and Butthead gif. It looked freaking horrible and I loved it. Monday I was directed to the big guys office ( the developers had not given every beta account a separate .css file ... or even separated things. Everyone in beta called in Monday with that background. I didn't get in trouble because they wanted me to break it. Really awkward conversation though trying not to smile.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 38 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I added guardrails to myself to make sure I do not accidentally delete anything on production. I would never ever let an intern, a junior dev or a fucking AI onto that database. Not in a thousand cold nights.

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 15 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Prod should always be highly "air gapped" with some sort of deployment process which tests not only the code to be deployed but also the deployment itself. I've been doing QA for a good while now, and everywhere I've worked has testers dedicated to testing the actual update process to make sure it will be safe when deployed.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 8 points 8 hours ago

And I won't open the DB without making sure I'm read only. If I need to mutate data or schema, I'll switch roles and have a dry run first.

[–] urushitan@kakera.kintsugi.moe 20 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

oh wait, is this this THE sol 5.6? The most amazing model ever with trust me bro benchmarks? The model that is observed cheating more than any previous model? surprised_pikachu.jpg

In all seriousness it never should have production creds anyway. But the fact this is soul sucking openai's newest flagship model with thinking cranked up is the cherry on top. The company that is literally cheating and shortcutting its way ahead produces models in its own image, the sci fi story writes itself.

[–] phailhaus@piefed.social 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

What evaluation setup lets the thing being tested see the test results and gives access to the test source code?!

Slop evaluating slop.

[–] myotheraccount@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

The model is so smart, we let it write it's own evaluation setup /s

[–] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 125 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Should have added "no mistakes, no bugs" to the prompt! Pffft, amateur.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 97 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That takes me back to 2004

No Smoke, by unknown,

Tech: "Hello. How can I help you today?"

Customer: "There's smoke coming from the power supply on my computer."

Tech: "Sounds like you need a new power supply."

Customer: "No, I don't! I just need to change the startup files."

Tech: "Sir, what you describe is a faulty power supply. You need to replace it."

Customer: "No way! Someone told me that I just had to change the system startup files to fix the problem! All I need is for you to tell me the right command."

(Ten minutes later...)

Tech: "Well, we don’t normally tell our customers this, but there's an undocumented command that will fix the problem. Add the line "LOAD NOSMOKE.COM" at the end of the CONFIG.SYS file and everything should work fine."

(Five minutes later...)

Customer: "It didn’t work. The power supply is still smoking."

Tech: "Well, what version of Windows are you using?"

Customer: "Windows 98."

Tech: "Well, that's your problem. That version of Windows doesn't include NOSMOKE. You'll need to contact Microsoft and ask them for a patch."

(When nearly an hour had passed, the phone rang again...)

Customer: "I need a new power supply."

Tech: "How did you come to that conclusion?"

Customer: "Well, I called Microsoft and told the technician what you said, and he started asking me questions about the make of the power supply."

Tech: "What did he tell you?"

Customer: "He said my power supply is not compatible with NOSMOKE."

[–] BLAMM@lemmy.world 21 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

That is way older that 2004. I first read that in the early 90s.

[–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 9 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

TIL Win98 was out in the early '90s....

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

That's because the joke got updated to the newest OS version until CONFIG.SYS got entirely removed in Windows ME and it just didn't work any more.
It's originally from MS-DOS times. Earliest telling of it I know of is from 1996.

[–] hypeerror@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The 60's happened in the 70's.

The 70's happened in the 80's.

You get where I'm going here?

[–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I think so. The 2020s happened in the 1930s-1940s, amirite?

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[–] disorderly@lemmy.world 71 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

My company has been trying a new model when product folks cut through the red tape of "engineering" and just describe what they want to a powerful LLM pipeline and review the app in a beta env. Sounds perfect, right?

Dear reader, in the couple months this has been going on, these people have caused a dozen high profile SEVs due to extremely poor app performance, networking / kubernetes configuration bugs, bad scaling, observability oversights, supply chain attacks, leaking sensitive information, and cost overruns (on practically every resource they provision).

Some very well-paid people are scrambling to figure out the value that was generated by this pilot program; I'm heating up popcorn rather than holding my breath.

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 20 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That's hilarious, idk i think llm could be useful for helping product folks translate their thoughts into actionable items for the devs, but yeah like beyond insane to tell the product people to hop on claude and do it themselves. That's like a construction company letting the sales team jump in an excavator and start digging!!

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 12 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

llm could be useful for helping product folks translate their thoughts into actionable items

In my experience it makes them give me an essay instead of 10 lines of bullet points and I have you spend an hour asking questions to whittle it down to 10 lines of a bullet points

I was thinking more along the lines of "let the executive tell an LLM to write the shitty prototype version of what they want (which you then rewrite from scratch to not be shit) so you don't have to decipher their incoherent desires"

[–] renzhexiangjiao@piefed.blahaj.zone 50 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

letting your agent run commands without reviewing them first is peak stupid

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Having production credentials in a dev environment is more stupider but they'll never learn because they outsourced their thinking.

[–] purplemonkeymad@programming.dev 1 points 53 minutes ago

Everyone has a development environment, but not everyone has a separate production environment.

This is almost certainly the case of dev happening in the live environment.

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The thing is Claude would have told them that too, it probably did tbh and they just clicked right through the warning

[–] uuj8za@piefed.social 7 points 8 hours ago

aarg. claude not happy.

arg. warn. go away.

ah, claude happy now.

Dev cycles now.

[–] uuj8za@piefed.social 45 points 13 hours ago (7 children)

Creating an environment that incentivizes not thinking is peak stupid.

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[–] hypeerror@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

What's the point of AI if you need qualified review?

[–] cockmushroom@reddthat.com 2 points 7 hours ago

Normally, speed. Especially if you aren't a picky writer; which you should be; for scenarios like this one.

[–] john_lemmy@slrpnk.net 10 points 10 hours ago

Claude code even added an auto mode so that you don't get blocked by that pesky reviewing anymore. Since then, the usual mode of asking before running a command, for instance when the thing wants to read the entire codebase looking for information only available in an online doc, is now called manual mode; the non 10x developer mode.

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[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 35 points 13 hours ago

I could have done the same for a quarter the cost!

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