50 shades of grey was also stupid and bad and it very much was not written by AI.
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I learned recently that it was actually Twilight fanfiction to start, and the author had to tweak the world to make the vampires rich guys.
Which I guess explains it a bit more.
To be fair, it was heavily implied that the Cullens were rich. At least in the films.
If you are a Vampire, especially one of the type where you "mostly act nornal and sometimes suck blood" and not some bat man horror monsyer, you would have a hard time NOT being rich really.
You could potentially work like 5 jobs, you have very few expense needs like food or even proper shelter if you want to save up. Even just a basic investment of any kind would grow enormously over a hundred years.
Which is pretty telling of how bad llm fiction is.
50 shades of grey and fanfics like my immortal are fun to read because a person was weird enough to write them. Llm slop is just spam.
Claude produces notably flat event escalation, GPT over-indexes on dream sequences, and Gemini defaults to external character description.
Which are all ways of creating more text without saying anything. Repetition is another classic.
I feel like that's a problem with all low-effort, AI-generated texts (which is the vast majority of them): You give it a prompt with maybe ten pieces of information and expect it to generate a text that's a hundred times as long, while also not straying too far from the prompt.
Of course, it's going to take every opportunity to not say anything that would advance the plot. Because advancing the plot means either using up the little input you gave it, or to invent new information which might contradict the prompt...
Other tells I've noticed: lots of purple prose, sentence fragments, and the good ol "not X---Y" framing. Another tell is jarring tone shifts from chapter to chapter or even scene to scene i.e. a character might come across as sympathetic in one part of the story and an absolute psychopath in another for no reason.
It's a problem in fanfic right now, but I think this'll pass when prices innevitably go up. It's not like fanfic writers are really making that much from donations.
Rule of three is a other one. Although, it does make the output nicely structured.
I mean yeah they mostly learned from fanfic authors.
I was recently talking to an independent bookshop owner, looking at some of the submissions for self-published books. It was depressing as fuck. An absolute slop fest. The 'illustrated' childrens books were by far the worst offenders.
LMMs are just mediocrity machines.
You input one great book, and 25 dogshit fanfictions, you're not going to output a great book.
It's like teaching someone how to cook Chateaubriand, but also 19 recipes for hot dogs, and then expecting them to make braised lamb or some shit.
You are wrong, even a LLM fed with 26 great books couldn't write a good one.
Oh, I fully fucking agree.
I'm just putting this in 'crayon eater' terms for them to try and understand.
No kidding. Anyone else visit the SCP wiki? It's so blindingly obvious which new skips are LLM-generated, but the "authors" always play dumb like "Huh??? What makes you say that????" when their skips are like "SCP-12345 is multiversal, ethereal, and ruminant. We are not containing it—it is containing us."
I remember the stuff they added to Duolingo after the leadership went "AI first".
Duolingo has these story exercises. Old stories were all kind of fun and distinctive, and the characters are fun and memorable. Then they got the bright idea to AI generate more stories.
"Oh, don't worry, the new content will all be reviewed by humans", they said.
Were they?
The new stories were... I don't even remember any more. Best I can describe them is "there's stuff and it happens and the characters are just kinda there". It went in one ear, out of the other. I fucking can't. I don't think I was learning stuff from that.
And these were tiny stories, like couple of hundred words tops. Anyone uses LLMs to write novels is out of their rocker.
there's stuff and it happens and the characters are just kinda there
You're welcome to ignore this, but I feel I have to point out, not to you, but the universe in general (and just coincidentally as a reply to your comment), how well this describes almost everything about the most recent two episodes of a beloved TV series featuring a blue box that travels in time and space (which I like the usual amount). I'm going to go cry now. 🟦
And yet 50 shades of grey came out before llm general availability
The LLMs learn to write fiction from the best[-seller]!
LOL I mean human slop has always been a thing, so this is unsurprising. I at least find it to be highly memeable and fun to mock casually. However, slop engines outputting garbage a human never touched, that is a different matter.
Given that people seem happy to consume endless A.I. Instagram feeds and such, I get the feeling most people actually don't care about the quality of what they're consuming. People who hate A.I. content like myself seem to be in the minority. I've actually run some casual anecdotal triangle tests with friends and family, and almost everyone actually preferred the A.I. generated content.
To me it seems almost like the equivalent of fast food or hyper palatable food maybe. It's shiny and bright and obvious and blunt and patronising and sycophantic… but people seem to enjoy that. I'm not sure how I feel about this.
I mean at least reading slop like 50 shades of grey or shadow of the conqueror can be amusing as a gateway at someone's psyche. I love bad fiction readings when it's human; when it's and Llm there is this odd creeping feeling that it's a waste of time. Same for bad music, bad cinema or bad art. If an llm made something like the room or fateful findings, it would not be amusing at all.
🤩That's not true! 🚀 You people are so mean. 😤
You're absolutely right!
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"Research" must have never met my friend Sturgeon. (Of Sturgeon's Law. No I didn't actually know him).
How dare you make me use a search engine? /j
Sturgeon's law states, "Ninety percent of everything is crap". The adage was coined by American science fiction author and critic Theodore Sturgeon while defending the merits of the genre. Sturgeon observed that most works in any field were low quality. Therefore, science fiction was not uniquely inferior.
Source: Take a wild guess
I'd expect AI fiction to be equivalent to the 100 monkeys in a room with 100 typewriters. Eventually they'll push out a good one but mostly it'll be just crap.
peak mediocrity
Lots of fiction is mediocre so this tracks.
Also the human part, the general idea of what the story is about is unoriginal because of the AI user himself