homeassistant

The 30 day warranty seems to be default for them, all their products are only given 30 day warranty. Super shitty and like you mention illegal many places.

(Re)pebble smartwatches also have only 30 days long warranties... https://repebble.com/warranty

Here's a quote from one of their blog posts: https://repebble.com/blog/pebble-time-2-is-in-mass-production

We offer a 30-day warranty. We will ship you a replacement during that period if you encounter any hardware defects and return it . We think this is a fantastic watch, and we stand behind it. But we can't stand up behind it forever - life happens. We’re also a much smaller company than before. We can’t afford to bring these new watches to market unless we can contain our exposure to risk. To balance that, we’re clearly stating our terms in the interest of being as transparent as possible, enabling you to make an informed decision.

We don't offer buyer's remorse refunds. The information about what Pebble is and does has been around for 14 years now. You all should have a pretty good idea of what the product is and whether you want it. It's also very hard to do reverse logistics worldwide (ie getting watches returned). If you don't want a Pebble, please don't order one 😉.

I find that disappointing and I'm honestly confused about how that checks out legally in EU.

E: I like how AirGradient approached this where you get parts for DIY kit (which is practically almost fully assembled and it's just formality to do the finishing screws) where you get no warranty but at a much cheaper price in return and the risk is on you: https://www.airgradient.com/indoor/

The monitor with warranty is 230 USD and the kit without warranty is 138 USD.

Pine64 does not sell consumer products. These are for development and testing. They're also sold at cost or subsidized. Pine64 does not make any profit.

US consumer rights standard, I believe. Some freedom they have over there. Should be US only warranty, as it is illegal for all of the rest of the western world at the minimum. Norwegian law is minimum 3 years - 5 if it's expected to last for a long time. Less than a month is a liability parody.

I'm just gonna shamelessly plug my project here: https://github.com/charludo/hass-closest-intent

You do need local STT, but it's fine if it's somewhat bad; the conversation agent linked is sufficient to "get" what you meant, without LLM.

I love fully local stuff, but the LLM part seems very expensive. Even for such a simple thing as managing our lights and music.

So, the simple things should just be voice command (not recognition, limited vocabulary), kitchen light on, what's todays weather (assuming you automatically download it and have it there, needs TTS like whisper). That can run on a recent potato. Somewhat more complex things need full voice recognition e.g. Play me x songname by y artist. Laptop CPU should handle that fine. You'll only need a full LLM for more general inquiries, e.g. What mess has Trump made today?, which will need web access seeing as small LLMs don't have a lot of world knowledge (although you can self host Wikipedia and point it at that).

If you have a desktop computer and a GPU with 16+GB VRAM (or even smaller using RAM and a MoE LLM) that'll do the job with reasonable smarts e.g. Qwen 3.6 35BA3B, Gemma 4 12B or 26BA4B. You may have to wait a minute or two. Mine pulls around 55W at idle (7800XT) and does double duty as a NAS and gaming rig, or you can have it sleep most of the time and let the laptop wake it up when necessary.

I love fully local stuff, but the LLM part seems very expensive. Even for such a simple thing as managing our lights and music.

Yeah, this is something I found out when I hacked my Amazon Echo and put LineageOS on it. I like the new interface that isn't constantly advertising Amazon bullshit as a screensaver, but it doesn't have a GPU, so attempting to put any sort of voice component takes many seconds to try to process.

And in this post-memory-crisis economy, it's not quite the right time to buy a dedicated LLM processing rig for my house. But, this really needs to be the route in the future. Or just install a NPU on this speaker itself. Phones already do this, and it's been the standard since 2017.

If you're talking about Google Home Mini or Google Nest Mini, there is a project on GitHub which replaces the PCB with an open alternative. The boards for the Home Mini are in production right now and Nest Mini is going to be the next.

• https://github.com/iMike78/home-mini-v1-drop-in-pcb
• https://github.com/iMike78/nest-mini-drop-in-pcb
• https://micimike.com/

Does yours even work? I have a Polk Google nest capable sound bar and like 4 of the small nest mini speakers and the groups have always inconsistently worked and overall it works like utter shit.

I don't need to ask HA what the weight of a cow is, or any other LLM stuff, I just want to control the home

So, I've been faffng around with a Pi Zero and voice assistant and it works fine - with HA doing all the processing in a VM elsewhere.

I agree these 3 devices look much nicer, so which do I go for?

Mycroft (afaik now called "ovos"), and the home assistant internal one come to mind

I believe you can! You don't need this product though. See https://www.home-assistant.io/voice_control/android/

This will get you started and give you a idea of the requirements.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvbVePuP7NY

What could get you started is a old laptop (or a pi) where you install home assistant and the necessary plugins. Then installing the Home assistant app on your phone for voice control.

If you use Home Assistant you can configure the voice assistant to be the default one for android yes. Mine only does control and statuses for my local devices, can't ask questions or anything but that's probably configurable.

How does music sound on it?