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[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 137 points 5 days ago (3 children)

"Biosynthetic gene mining of the L. asiatica genome found no close hits with any genes known in the production of mushroom psychoactive compounds," write the researchers in their published paper.

"This supports our hypothesis of the presence of a novel unidentified metabolite responsible for the unique hallucinogenic properties of L. asiatica."

Yeah. No known hallucinogens.

[–] DougPiranha42@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Exactly. Or even- no known hallucinogens synthesized by their canonical biochemical pathways by enzymes expressed from the host species genome.
The OG hallucinogen, ergot, is ingested by eating wheat. If one presumed that the substance is made by wheat, if would be really tricky to find the genes for its synthesis, because the hallucinogen is made by mold growing on the wheat.
It’s very rare you can draw a strong conclusion from negative results.

[–] boydster@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Rye is the most common place ergot grows, which is another common bread grain. I am not disagreeing with your post, and ergot can grow on wheat too, just pointing out that rye is a much more common source of egot contamination.

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Huey Lewis will be so excited by this news!

[–] starik@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago

Love that song! “Bustin’ makes me feel good!”

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[–] DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 31 points 4 days ago (41 children)

Can't wait for it to become known so governments all across the world can throw you in a prison cell and ruin your life for it like the other known hallucinogens.

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[–] WhosMansIsThis@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They finally found it. The Blue Angel mushroom really does exist...

[–] nforminvasion@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago
[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 35 points 4 days ago

they found no close matches to genes associated with psilocybin or ibotenic acid, two well-known mushroom hallucinogens

None that we already know about, not the same as none

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 58 points 4 days ago (11 children)

Maybe it's not a hallucination at all. Maybe the mushroom is actually an anti-hallucinogen. It suppresses the hallucinations that normally prevent us from seeing the tiny people.

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[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Potentially (potentially doing a LOT of heavy lifting here) unethical, make a reasonably comfortable tiny person cell, take the mushrooms, put a tiny person in the cell. A second person who is completely unaware of the previous events takes the mushroom and we see if they can see the same tiny person still in the cell.

[–] datavoid@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago

Collect enough of them in their own cells and we can battle them like Pokemon!

[–] williemybillies@thelemmy.club 2 points 3 days ago

why does the tiny person need to be in a cell?

[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 51 points 4 days ago (12 children)

Well it does contain a psychedelic drug, just not one that we've identified yet.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (3 children)

You don't know that. Maybe it just disables the tiny people filter we normally have.

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[–] chewypoops@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

I know that most people describe these hallucinations as unpleasant, but I do kinda want to know. I wanna meet those little guys.

[–] gnufuu@lemmy.ca 42 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Lanmaoa asiatica

My sincerest apologies. I know the way out.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 27 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

They're just enabling you to see the fae that are always there. DO NOT GIVE THEM YOUR NAME, NO MATTER WHAT!

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[–] SunshineJogger@feddit.org 18 points 4 days ago (2 children)

No matter what it is, it is fascinating in its own right that it has such a specific visual effect on users.

Maybe this mushroom was very common once and is the source for folk tales of all sorts.

I mean there are truly a lot of old stories involving tiny people.

[–] mPony@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

There are also a lot of old stories about people seeing tall slender alien-like creatures. I wonder if there's a substance that causes that.

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[–] errer@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Well yeah, these guys live there

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[–] GreyShuck@feddit.uk 26 points 5 days ago (13 children)

Regardless of the actual metabolite responsible, this does raise the question of whether, if any other species consume them and are susceptible, they see tiny versions of their own species?

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[–] rain_enjoyer@sopuli.xyz 16 points 4 days ago

Clickbait headline, the primary object of that study was to figure out phylogeny of these mushrooms. finding no known genes associated with known hallucinogens is a bonus and pretty useless info because the compound responsible for this activity is not known, how do you know how it's made then

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