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This system is in place in France and is extremely stupid and wasteful.
This is going to kill people since waiting times increasing for doctors aren't just some benign inconvenience. And contagious people will have an incentive to go to work as well, which is what happens in France and worsens epidemics, which actually costs way more than the mythical lazy person who calls in sick to play video games all day.
Are Germans going to fight back?
Feel sick.
Call in sick.
Get told to get letter.
Don't get letter.
Go back to work when well
Get asked for letter.
Go fuck yourself and fire me if you're going to.
Any job willing to enforce that isnt worth working at.
Except when you go back to work you look over and see a coworker working who has three kids and you know is financially struggling and can't afford to get fired but they are clearly sick as hell and the whole office is uncomfortable...
...and then you realize... hopefully that simply personally rejecting this work environment isn't enough, you need to unionize effectively so that this doesn't happen.
They need to fire the dumb fuck who made the rule, but I'm not sure what system they use there and how long they're stuck with him.
This will overload doctors offices even more than they already are. This will lead to rubberstamping sick leave at reception.
This was the one of the many bad aspects about my employers response to COVID. They required a professionally administered test to approve your time off.
“Hey! I feel shitty and tested positive for COVID. I should rest and isolate at home, right?”
“No, you need to go out and feel shitty in the public, so someone else can give you the same exact test.”
Yes, that will be the effect, and they won't be told to come back in two days, they will be told to come back in a week for a control visit, just to make sure they don't get overrun by people with migraine and gastrointestinal distress. This change will make the situation worse for everyone - Patients, Doctors, Businesses, Insurance - not better.
It is almost like Merz is an idiot but Germans are too enamored by the smell of their own xenophobic, "superior" diarrhea from shitting their pants to see the obvious reality.
Merz has historically low approval.
Good! Will that be enough to keep Germany from fascism spiralling? I remain very skeptical it will.
Germany is less far down that road than other European countries. Being overly worried is fear mongering taking root.
The worrisome thing is necessary reforms not being done. And there being little chance of that changing. But same is true for e.g. France if we are being honest. And Belgium got a nationalist government. Austria had Kurz who did just what you are fearing in allying with the far right.
The difference between Germany and those other countries of course is Germany exterminated millions of jews, minorities and other "unwanted" in gas chambers while fighting a world war and German society largely sat and took it like cowards.
You have to understand how that changes how the rest of the world contextualizes Germany's current "flirtation" with fascism... but hey I am from the US so I don't claim to be on any high horse here.
Current politics is very far removed from that historical context and forgets how popular those policies used to be all over the world. And using language like exterminate is dehumanizing.
Expecting Germans to be a fundamentally genocidal people is racist. And you, likely, aren't even aware of the genocides that happen and are happening in the past 10 years. There are plenty.
I hear all these words and none of them change the fact that less than a hundred years ago Germany exterminated millions of jews, minorities and a multitude of other human beings too.
How dare you accuse me of dehumanization for calling it what Germans saw it as. I clearly did it to emphasize the brutality not dehumanize the victims, fool.
Get the hell out of here with your lazy whataboutism about Genocide, of all things you could have picked.
I consider your language insensitive as you should provide more context and condemnation when using such dehumanizing terms. I didn't think you were intending to do so.
Ok sure, beating around the bush with Genocide is a bit of a touchy subject with the Genocide of Palestinians raging on with state support of both the US and Germany, supposedly for the better of jews... so ok but know that I do not use such serious lightly or carelessly.
I didn't defend the genocide on the Palestinians. To be fair, I do believe it gets disproportionate media attention compared to other, ongoing genocides with much higher death tolls and suffering. In particular on the left. But this does not mean you should attack me out of the blue.
Nobody cares if you think the Palestinian Genocide gets just a bit too much media attention in the cultures of the main systematic enablers of the Genocide.
Yes, other Genocides exist and we should also talk about them, of course, stop trying to use that strawman argument like most people upset about the Palestinian Genocide are only interested for specific reasons and not because it is a horrific crime against humanity... as a whole... it should weigh all of our hearts down shame on those who can forget it.
I don't know if i have ever met a Palestinian, I probably have but I can't think of any specific interaction or person I know and say "ah yes they are Palestinian", but it doesn't matter, I know there is an entire history that I do not know, but also I know that Palestinians are human beings and that is enough.
So let us stand together against genocide ok?
I didn't say that. I said the others don't get enough by a mile.
There is ample reason for the Palestine genocide to be overrepresented, some good too, some bad, too. Please read this as perceived and not actual reasons, some are much less sane and valid than others, the order is somewhat random:
Many particularly hainous parts of genocide did not happen in Palestine and likely never will, such as seen in al fasher. Also I feel like the points somewhat repeat each other.
Freedom of the press in Israel?
Glacial state of the conflict?
Few Israelis arguing in favor of this?
!!!
wow
There are journalists on the ground. Many of them. There are large, international newspapers. There are far fewer than 1000 people dying most days. It has went on for years. That's a slow pace.
There are some notable Israeli figures who argue in favor of this. I didn't intend to write the are only a few of them, but that there are at least some.
Maybe, but doesn't this seem super high to you?
Germany ranks seventh for the most sick leave taken by employees, with an average of 3.6 weeks per year.
3.6 weeks?
We have 5 paid sick days here and 3 unpaid. I think I used 1 or 2 last year.
The average is always high, because long time sickness drags the statistics up.
It's not 10 people having the flu for 3.6 weeks every year. It's one person going down with stress or cancer for half a year without losing their employment.
Yeah just seems high with Italy being at .9. Germany has 4x higher sickness? Or just Italians lose their jobs? And Romania with .1 week.
https://www.datapulse.de/en/sick-leave-europe-comparison/
This goes into everything about it. In short, the sick statistics actually only shows which countries are good at reporting it. The countries with the best coverage of pay obviously also report it better.
Germany is straight in the middle of everything.
The most interesting thing to notice is Norway. They have the highest average of sick days. They're probably not more sick than others, but because their sick days are covered 100% by the state, it's in everyone's interest to report it. And yet... despite of 19% of the workforce being sick on any given day... they're also the most productive GDP/hour.
Hmm good point
Seems a bit high but on par with rest of Europe
Italy .9 week. Germany is 4x higher
Yeah Germany is in a good place and Germans are willingly sabotaging themselves because Germany is easy to manipulate when you tell Germans they are superior. That is my point.
Have you looked at any populist movement in the world? Anyone likes easy solutions and being told their often multiple fears/worries/problems have one definite source. That is the populist playbook and has happened again and again over hundreds of years, irrespective of actual systems of Government. I think that is something very human that can only be beaten with education, imo.
The question is education of what kind? Education only about machines and their practical applications of their force? Or education about the humanities and art and why they are more important than the machines?
Something The Magic Mountain captures in perfect tension.
What? So you feel sick, like a migraine or so, and have to go to a doctor just to confirm it?? The whole world has gone to shit.
In my country it worked like that since forever... It sucks, since it comes down to you basically having to go to a doctor's office with a fucking fever. And ofc doctors office is overcrowded as-is so that takes better part of the day.
Same here but doctor is so overcrowded I won't get an appointment before the next week and have to go to er...
I'm talking about this: you wake up and feel like someone dumped pile of shit on you. You call on sick and hope that it gets better. Here in Sweden we have first I think 3 days unpaid this way, after that it is paid for up to 6 days and for longer time you need to go to the doctor. This way you avoid spreading flu for example and overloading the health system.
Nah, just some more of that superior German intellect and work ethic!
This is bad, but Novara Media is using such news while at the same time hailing China for its policies, although Chinese social welfare and labour conditions are far behind Germany's or anywhere else in Western democracies. This is a highly biased anti-democratic medium in my opinion.
Textbook case of Whataboutism.
There is a community here on Lemmy that tries to normalize biased media that favour China and other autocratic systems.
I don't support this German move, but in addition to the end to phone-based sick notes, the German government introduced another 33 measures, including a €10 billion in income tax relief targeted at lower and middle-income earners. But Novara Media takes a single measure out of 34. This is a textbook case of selection bias.
There is nothing wrong with critique, but there are good sources that explain the entire German package in more depth, and many of them are easier accessible as they aren't hiding behind Cloudflare as Novara Media does if I may say so.
Hey sinophibic idiot: Germany is irrelevant and China dominates it in every metric relevant to workers quality of life. Germany is a Zionist shithole. Take your China Bad shit and go home.