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Frannie is a 2019 Salsa Vaya.

Steel frame with a Shimano 105 drivetrain. We roll tubeless. She typically hauls between 20 and 40 pounds of gear depending on the season. I used to ride carbon, but once I hit my 40s every ride started to hurt a little more, so I moved to steel. Unloaded, the frame weighs about 19 lbs, but it handles smooth as silk.

I would spend 8 hours a day on this thing if I didn't have a job.

Dat azzzz

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[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

How does that kick stand work? Does it compress and fit in one of your bags? I like that it's not permanently fixed to the bike

[–] xavier_berthiaume@jlai.lu 2 points 1 day ago

Amazing bike!

That is a top-tier name, gotta love a Steely Dan reference.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

My brother has a similar type of bike that he uses for almost everything for over the last 25 years.

Granted, it has had lots of maintenance over the years and it's a little bit a ship of Theseus situation with tires, brakes, chain, sprockets, etc, but the frame and wheels, steering bar etc. are still original.

Good bikes be good bikes for life

That's awesome! Bike goals.

All the maintenance and tweaking are part of the Zen of the whole thing, for sure. Sounds like your brother knows what's up.

I have a 20-year-old Trek 4200 with about 70K miles on it. The thing is fucking immortal and it wasn't even close to being a top-end bike in 2006 (I think it cost around $500 new). Drivetrain, tires and brakes are the only things I've ever replaced, obviously many times over.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

At that age, all the wear items have worn multiple times, still having the original wheels is pretty good though. They're one of the easiest components on a bike to damage.

I had the rim of my rear wheel crack last week, first time I've ever had a wheel problem in 20 years/100K miles of riding.

[–] homes@piefed.world 16 points 3 days ago

lol, great name

Happy Pride Weekend! 🏳️‍🌈

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My partner and I are into gravel, akd she's been seriously considering a steel frame.

Also, cross post to cycling! Those communities need love.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

Changed my bicycle to a motorbike. I love it, but I miss good old days

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Yep. Had a similar setup back when I had a weekly commute of 350km by bike. Plus visiting friends and grocery shopping. For the latter, I even had a trailer. Went through a number of bearings, gears, and chains over the years...

[–] arcine@jlai.lu 2 points 2 days ago

That's cool, it looks a little painful to use as a daily driver though ! I'll stick with city bikes (also known as a fiets) with a lower saddle and higher handlebars.

[–] pwalker@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nice rig! I've seen several bike tourer using these leather saddles instead of the foamy ones? What are the advantages of those? I assume they dont soak up water when driving through rain

[–] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Those leather saddles are designed to fit to the rider and last forever. It's thick leather stretched over a steel frame. There's a break-in period of about 100 miles, and then it just fits you forever.

The leather breathes, so you don't sweat as much, but the shock absorbtion is much better. If I hit a big bump, I'll feel it in my wrists but the rest of my body just bounces in the saddle.

They don't like getting wet though. If I have to leave it outside in the rain I'll put a bag over it.

[–] pwalker@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago

very interesting, would need check where I can get one of those saddles in my area

[–] KraeuterRoy@feddit.org 10 points 2 days ago

She's got them purrdy eyes 👀💚

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

She's frantastic!

[–] jif@piefed.ca 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Beauty! What kind of handlebar tape do you use?

[–] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thanks! It's Brooks tape (same brand as the saddle), but I'm not sure I'd recommend it unless you care more about looks than comfort, unfortunately. It's pretty thin, and doesn't offer much in the way of cushion or pad. I put it on thinking it'd enable me to ride without gloves, but it ended up having the opposite effect.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Put on some cushion-y foam tape, then put the fancy Brooks leather tape back on over it. (Hopefully you haven't cut the Brooks tape too short, 'cause that stuff is expensive.)

Or if not the whole bar, get some of those gel pads that cushion key areas:

[–] kadotux@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago

Looks very cool! How is steering with the bags on the sides of the front wheel?

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Why did carbon hurt? Also, is there anreaons for no front basket? Looks great!

[–] 00xide@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not OP, but I know why carbon hurts (and why it's useful!):

Carbon is stiffer than steel. That does a lot of stuff, but two things primarily - one good, one bad.

Good: the force you put into the pedals bends a steel frame more than it does a carbon frame. Every bit of force used to bend the frame is force that doesn't get used to push you forwards, so a stiff carbon frame is a lot faster than a bendy steel one.

Bad: the force from the road works the same way as the force from your pedals: it also gets reduced with a bendier frame, and a stiff frame will take every bump and crack in the tarmac and put that force right into your taint.

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 hours ago

I'm blown away that there's a difference and a notable one at that. Thanks for the info!

[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Carbon is stiffer than steel, so a carbon bike doesn't have as much shock-absorbing flex to it.

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Hello fellow old person!

once I hit my 40s every ride started to hurt a little more, so I moved to steel. Unloaded, the frame weighs about 19 lbs, but it handles smooth as silk.

Was it the vibration? Because I have some crappy joints and now I'm thinking I should try some steel....

[–] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Howdy! Sorry, thought I responded already. Carbon vs steel is night and day. There's pretty much zero energy absorbtion with carbon, so you feel every bump and crack.

Steel, for as hard and durable as it is, has a decent amount of give. You'll still feel the bumps, but significantly less.

If you're just looking to make your current ride more comfortable, though, that leather saddle is a massive upgrade. Seriously. It's everything.

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 1 points 2 days ago

Less comfort and more my shitty knee (which per the doctor I'm trying to keep as long as I can, but will need a replacement before my 60s guaranteed)

I'm also considering getting electric going as a backup, in case I need to give my knee a break for a few. My longer (60+mi/100+km) rides I just can't do anymore because of it, and I am trying to think of ways I can. Right now even 25mi/40km can be a bit of a stretch, so when I do ride its only for an hour or so. I miss the long rides.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Magnificent beast!
And (for some reason) still how a proper bike looks like in my mind :).

Who dis?

Well spotted! That's Gizzy Gator, the mascot for King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 days ago
[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago

She's a beauty.

[–] Blurntout@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fran Fran with that fancy saddle

[–] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Best investment you can make if you're a frequent rider, hands down. Makes bike shorts and chamois pointless, you can ride in anything. I've had that saddle longer than I've had the bike, there's probably 10,000 buttmiles on it.

[–] Blurntout@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

One could say it keeps your banjo from throbbing in a negative way 😉

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Sick bike! How do you like the brooks saddle? I take it you're riding without padded shorts?

Also thank you for cross posting it to the bike comm, so I could upvote it twice!

[–] crimsonpoodle@pawb.social 1 points 2 days ago

Sick dude i really want to try bike camping someday and move to someplace that has green. I like the eyes too

[–] MSids@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have a 2020 Vaya and I am convinced that the Vaya is one of the best bikes ever made. I got a Fargo last year also, and I love it just as much. The Vaya has been so many places with me, I even took it on my honeymoon to the Azores.

[–] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's just an absolute joy to ride, right? The Fargo looks like a beast though, how's it handle in winter?

[–] MSids@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It sure is a joy, and as much as I love my orange red one I really like your green one a lot too.

I have only had the Fargo for a few months now, I got it before they switched to 32” wheels, so I imagine the newer version is even more of a beast. My winter experience on the Fargo is limited mostly to commutes, but it has been extremely comfortable. It’s definitely a bit more in the ATB realm and feels more upright than the Vaya.

I do feel like I will probably still bikepack on the Vaya. The mounts are a bit more favorable for the racks and bags that I have. My wife works for Nemo and has documented a few of our bike adventures on the Nemo blog if you’re curious to see a picture of mine. Nemo makes an awesome bikepacking tent.

[–] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Dude! That blog is awesome, y'all sound fun as hell. Good to know about the Nemo too, I've been curious about those. I tend to solo it, so I've always hammock camped when I bikepack, but it would be nice to be less tree-dependent.

[–] MSids@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Haha thank you, we do alright, my wife is pretty cool. Nemo makes great gear. The later version of that tent (used on our Nova Scotia trip) was well improved. I think they called the new fabric Osmo. Shoot me a DM if you’re interested, I might be able to sneak a 40% code from her.

[–] FrowingFostek@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

A road become one Of satchels and sun 🎶