Fediverse

You can't see the offending comments on piefed/Pylova modlogs OP, but you can on Lemmy:

Lemmy is not Reddit and I'm so glad it's not. It's nowhere near as buggy for a start, and if an instance has issues you can just hop on to and browse another one instead of the whole fediverse and communities being inaccessible like on Reddit. Reddit was one of the most buggy things I'd ever used and I lost count the amount of times I had to close the app and reopen it again because profiles or posts would not load.

And another fantastic thing I just found out: karma has almost no meaning here!!! Not like on Reddit where a low enough karma could get your account in trouble and stop your posts and comments being seen. Here on Lemmy you can continue to have actual discussions without anything stupid like that getting in the way. People can contribute from day one without fear of shadowbans!!

So whatever problems Lemmy and the fediverse may have, I will take it any day over the buggy and karma obsessed cesspit that Reddit has become. Reddit used to be a place for disscussion when I joined there 5 years ago, now it's just a collection of data harvesting echo chambers.

Lemmy is what Reddit used to be.

Hard disagree. People are people, doesn't matter if you're on Reddit, Lemmy, Piefed, X, Mastodon, Instagram, LinkedIn, etc.

What makes the Fediverse different is not users behavior, but how it's decentealized instances and moderation works, as well as the user freedom to choose an instance akin to their ideals. Also the way that up and downvotes work.

In Reddit people farm karma because they want those digital points in their profile. Here you don't have it. The up and downvotes are strict to the post itself, not to your account.

In Reddit you either accept Reddit's rules and "behave" according to what they demand, or you get banned out of every discussion, requiring a whole new account if that happens (and hoping they don't ban that account too, for ban evasion). Here if you get banned, you can access the discussion from any other instance - you're not locked out for good.

The way Fediverse works makes discussion and different points of view possible. Maybe you can't make a point in an instance, because they have a viewpoint different from yours and won't accept that specific argument. But you might actually receive positive feedback with that same opinion on a different instance regarding the same topic.

On Fediverse you're not permanently punished for going against the grain, contrary to Reddit. And you also don't get praised and adding permanent "value" (karma) to your account by reposting some popular shit, also contrary to Reddit.

In other words, Lemmy/Piefed encourages you to post what you actually think. Reddit discourages you to post anything that might be seen as unpopular, and instead it encourages you to repost the same popular beliefs without any critical sense.

The difference in how Reddit and Lemmy/Piefed operate makes a HUGE difference.

Edit: And he blocked me. lmao

You left reddit because you didn't like the users. I left reddit because I didn't like the corpo BS and the company trying to monetize what the users built. We are not the same.

If you want the things you posted about to be different, go roll your own.

9 days

Finally

This place isn't a bot infested and advertisement strewn hell with cronenburgian user interface that blocks third party readers. The draw that its obscurity prevents the technologically or politically ignorant people from stumbling to it so easily is just a bonus.

Power-Tripping Mods, Gaslighting Users, Immature Moderators, 100 Rules to follow but contradicts itself

The point of the Fediverse is not that we individually have better characters than the people on Reddit. The point is that if you don't like what an instance is doing, you can join an instance you do like, or make your own.

• no advertising
• not run by a corporation
• freedom to find an instance aligned with your values

That's a big deal to those of us who like lemmy/piefed. If you don't care about those things, then yeah you might as well stay on Reddit.

I ran from Reddit because I'm trying to avoid big US tech monopolies in favor of smaller, less monopolistic goods and services. I'm happy with drinking my local brand of cola, using European email and cloud storage providers and getting my share of news and commentary from Fediverse sources. Works out great for me.

I think power-tripping moderators is exactly what the web needs. I loved the age of bulletin boards. Maybe it's nostalgia, but I remember the quality of discourse being significantly higher on those moderated platforms. And more importantly, the number of low-quality posts, trolls etc was way lower, because someone would correctly identify bullshit and just delete it.

Seems like your main complaint is not about the platform but about people.

Big thing for me is the fediverse part. More privacy, no tracking or ads. People are people, but less corporate power tripping is a win.

Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think most of us came here to leave the community of Reddit, just the admins/corporate decisions.

Dumb rules and power tripping mods have been a thing across every community on the internet and will be forever.

It sounds to me like you've never been on a forum before reddit existed. Decentralized forums were a healthy proportion of the internet in the late 90s and early naughts.

Oh hey it's another person with a young account of 9 days who gets banned from a community and tells the mods to kill themselves complaining about the internet being the internet.

1. No Spez
2. No shareholders
3. Third party apps
4. Modlog

The main advantages of the top of my head.

From all the new refugees showing up here from Reddit, it sounds like things over there are even worse than when I left…

I ran from a site whose CEO spread malicious lies about 3rd party app developers while changing things to charge them so much fir API access that it was effectively a soft ban on said apps existing without saying they were banned in top-tier scumminess, all so they could force people onto their shitty stolen buggy ad-infested app to crank up their own numbers for their IPO at the expense of the community and devs that propped them up.

I don't see this happening on Lemmy.

We are ex-Reddit users. As we have been ex-Slashdot, ex-Digg, ex-forums, ex-etc. over the years. That doesn't mean all those things are the same as each other. They're different in important dimensions which made people move between them. Lemmy is not Reddit in important dimensions and this is why we're now here instead of on Reddit.

Finally

Welp, you took 9 days, if you're going to leave, just leave.

Obviously the vast majority of people who see this will have made it more than 9 days tho

No.

-- Sent from my self-hosted Wafrn blog.

@fediverse@lemmy.world @Nytefyre@piefed.social

Yeah. Basically. Its claim to fame is getting off corpo control and algorithms. It also has more options for the user and portability. It does not change humanity nor is it some guarantee to get a better batch of humanity. I like the crowd but I do have no problems using block.

Piefed user exclusively interacting with lemmy.world content complains it's too much like reddit. Okay, buddy.

Block what bothers you and move on. Unlike Reddit, at least here you can find alternatives if you do it.

It's great when people make it easy to know to block them.

you've mistaken the forest for the trees

https://lemmy.ca/post/7243839/4029041

I already wrote about what's different back in Oct 2023 in response to a complaint reminiscent of yours. Most important bit:

That’s what you will have to deal with in the de-centralized model, and I think it strikes a decent balance of allowing open communication, resisting overall censorship while still allowing some groups to censor out what they consider bad vibes.

Don't like it? Spin up your own node. Run it as you see fit. That's what's different. Personally I'd prefer we go back to Usenet.

No

Power-Tripping Mods, Gaslighting Users, Immature Moderators, 100 Rules to follow but contradicts itself .etc

This is everywhere. If the mods have big ego, then you can't do anything with that.

I mean, the behavior of the community speaks for itself. They try so hard not being the thing they ran from three years ago, but in the midst of their attempt, they end up evolving into the very thing they ran from.

Welcome to the internet.

Its like they just didn’t like being on the platform of origin, promised they’d do better, then realizing how separated they are to where they just recreated it by instinct.

You can still host your own instance.

I can just go on and on and on. Oh and I don’t even care about this stupid debate that happened between .ML and .World because there’s virtually no difference and it is just nothing but a sissy online slapfight.

One's waaay on the left (that's what ml stands for - marxist-leninist) and the other is too general.

Sure, I wasn't aware there was a big denial of that.

I ran away because there is no free speech in reddit. You can not advocate for Palestine without being banned from every sub reddit its insane!