Slop.

From my point of view those people can call China's system whatever they want, be it socialism or "capitalism for the benefit of society", when the end result is them agreeing that it's working better than what we have in the west. As long as their brains haven't been melted enough for them to call it fascism or something.

Exactly. Humans are built to optimize. Our bodies optimize energy, our brains optimize decisions, and our workflows optimize time and cost.

God I hate techbros, I hate that I was a techbro and I hate that I can't yet jump out of this shit to farm.

I’m forced to use LLM bullshit at work and out of curiosity I tried a 5 dollar trial plan for some Chinese models including deepseek, replicated my usual workflows and they completely destroyed the expensive western models on our corporate plan.

They just did what I asked quickly and efficiently, compared to Claude which bumbled around and seemed to be trying to drive up the costs as much as possible before getting close to what I had asked for.

I still don’t really care for the technology but I am impressed it’s reached a point where it can chuck out a prototype application in 15 minutes for less than a dollars worth of “tokens”.

China is socialist in name only

But Nazi Germany? Definitely, really, socialist. It's in the name!

also, SINO-phobe

Deepseek models are infamously inexpensive compared to the American models. That's their whole claim to fame. They can charge low prices because it only cost like a few hundred million US to train their last two gen of models, compared to the several billions that OAI and Anthropic have each dropped.

I'm guessing there's some subsidies going on, but they also have better business fundamentals and a functional green grid to work with.

China's electricity is 37% renewables (and increasing) while US electricity grid is 22% renewables (and decreasing). Discounting the payment option, just for environmental reason if you really have to use AI to help you with something (like debugging a code) you should use Deepseek.

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Lol that's some insane cope right there. Also where does the $18k chinese subsidies figure comes from lol. People forgetting that deepseek was just a side hustle?

The only claim you can have about deepseek being subsidized is the entire state-owned infrastructure that supplies critical inputs like energy, but at that point you're conceding that socialism is a better system.

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