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And the rest of the world insists he started the war as a deflection from his organized pedophilia cabal. He then lost the war, made a worse deal than Obama, and the "Trump/Epstein" issue is still alive and well. What a huge, colossal waste.
According to the Martial Planning the cuck payment, for the lack of a better word, is good.
*Marshall Plan
It's so depressing that I had to see this was posted by a satire website to know it wasn't something he actually said. I think Trump is trying to put satire news papers out of business by doing shit so insanely stupid, the satire sources sound more sane.
Trump insists it's very normal for the winners of wars to pay billions to the losers
Isn't this just the Marshall Plan?
The difference is, that money wasn't given to Hitler.
Whose Hitler in this case?
I didn't mean one person. But Germany got economic help only after the Nazi regime surrendered and a new country with a democratic constitution was founded in its place.
In Iran, the same regime is still in power. Some people at the top were killed, but replaced by others who are even more hard-line.
how much did we get when we lost Vietnam and Korea?
HUNDREDS of billions of dollars.
$300,000,000,000 to be exact.
That's about $1000 a person
It's more than that for the people actually paying their taxes, the rich aren't paying their share and the very poor rightfully don't pay enough to cover it.
Don't forget the extra 25 billion for the cost of the weapons they launched at Iran
I feel like a lot of this satire stuff is starting to really push the boundary of just being misinforming or at least very confusing.
Yeah, yeah, I know you can say, well, that's reality's fault for being so close to satire. Or the fact that this is believable basically makes it just as good as being true.
But I don't know. I think the time for satire is kind of past. I'm not sure that it serves any good. It's not really funny. All it does is make me frustrated about situations that didn't even exactly actually happen. When I'm already frustrated about the real thing that the satire is based on, it doesn't provide any sort of catharsis. And there are definitely at least some people who get confused and misinformed by it.
I believe it's done a lot of damage to political discourse in general. It's normalized the "dunking on your opponent" shit to the point that people go for that stuff over actual logical discussion and this has allowed all these grifters to get their feet into the door of politics. I really don't think we'd have had Trump getting memed into the white house the first time if satirizing politics hadn't become so mainstream.
Seems kind of insane to put that all at the feet of satire
Art and expression should not be policed. The onus of having media literacy is on the consumer and educators.
Giving someone's opinion on something isn't policing it. If you don't want people to give their opinion then dont present art to them.
“Everything is changing. People are taking their comedians seriously, and the politicians as a joke, when it used to be vice versa.”
It's always been this way unfortunately...
Question:
This man is known for not paying his debts. His entire life it has been fact.
What are the chances he thinks he can get away with not paying?
He's quite happy to pay contractors with the taxpayer's dime
Especially when it means kick backs for him and his family
To be fair, it's not his money he'd be paying with this time.
It seems they believe this is satire, but the US did support the rebuilding of Germany after World War II. In this case though, Trump is just a complete idiot, as usual.
We didn't pay it to hitler though.
Sure but the title of this article doesn't work if you know WW1s lack of nation building/stabilization caused Hitler in the first place.
In that sense, if we paid Hitler and other vets after WW1, he wouldn't have ended up homeless in a crashed economy and there wouldn't have been a Hitler/WW2 situation.
That's the big thing that the world learned. Then the US forgot and caused ISIS. So the title is still a fail. Americans need to remember this lesson more than anyone.
Hitler's experience being homeless in Vienna influenced his antisemitic views, but just to be clear, he was homeless prior to WWI.
After the war he was sent by his military superiors to spy on a German Workers party in 1919, and the leader of the party, Anton Drexler, ended up taking Hitler under his wing. Hitler eventually took over the movement that begun under Drexler, before turning it into the Nazi party. At one point, Hitler threatened to abandon the party unless Drexler handed over complete leadership.
Drexler remained a party member in name only, and seemed to basically serve as a propaganda tool to help retain pre-nazi membership. For some odd reason Hitler even ended up adopting Drexler's unique little mustache.
https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/adolf-hitler
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Drexler#CITEREFEvans2003
So after WWI an already antisemitic Hitler with a reputation in the army as unfit to lead due to psychotic tendencies, felt strongly that Germany had been greatly betrayed. But so did the military superiors who first sent Hitler to spy on Drexler and the Workers party, before eventually ordering him to join the party's leadership when Drexler took an interest.
Despite his experience in Vienna homeless shelters influencing his antisemitic views, Hitler's superior, and head of German Intelligence's "Education and Propaganda Department," Karl Meyer, was allegedly the person who first instructed Hitler to write about those views.
As the Nazi party grew, it seems a bit unclear when (if?) Hitler's superiors stopped providing him with official commands/communications, but Meyer would later state that he had been instructed by General Erich Ludendorff to have Hitler join the workers party.
Ludendorff oversaw virtually all decisions regarding Germany's strategy and war effort until the country's defeat in 1918. Later during the years of the Weimar Republic, he took part in the failed 1920 Kapp Putsch and Adolf Hitler's 1923 Beer Hall Putsch, thereby contributing significantly to the Nazis' rise to power.
After the war, Ludendorff became a prominent nationalist leader and a promoter of the stab-in-the-back myth, which posited that Germany's defeat and the settlement reached at Versailles were the result of a treasonous conspiracy by Marxists, Freemasons and Jews. He also took part in the failed 1920 Kapp Putsch and 1923 Beer Hall Putsch before unsuccessfully standing in the 1925 election for president. Thereafter, he retired from politics and devoted his final years to the study of military theory. His most famous work in this field was The Total War, where he argued that a nation's entire physical and moral resources should remain forever poised for mobilization because peace was merely an interval in a never-ending chain of wars. Following his death from liver cancer in Munich in 1937, Ludendorff was given—against his explicit wishes—a state funeral organized and attended by Hitler.
TLDR: Is there a chance preventing a German economic crash also could have prevented a Hitler situation/WWII? That's difficult to say.
You are assuming that the German populous would follow hitler equally and only hitler would be influenced by the changed economics. The lack of economic opportunity drove Germans towards the right and made Hitler message more appealing
It might not have had prevented Hitler leading the Nazi party, but it probably would have prevented that much support in the population for it.
The last two videos of this playlist seems to suggest that hyper inflation in Germany could have been avoided... and that's a lot of what fueled Hitler's rise:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AM2pncU4rs&list=PLMUzeMKhbl10X-XzH-6q4iU0Ysul7cC4c&index=13
It's been said "Fascism is Capitalism's immune system".... Hitler used the "Jewish backstabbing" mythology because of the mass poverty. Hitler went after "degenerate culture" in Berlin because mass poverty caused all sorts of sex acts and drugs to be sold as part of the city's underbelly/gray market. According to the documentary below, whole families went into prostitution:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWqnnUeD6cw
I think it's playing it up a bit in that documentary, but I do believe a lot of this stuff related to mass poverty, caused by economic destruction, and a lack of care post WW1. I'm a believer in the theory that fascism is a product of failed economics, and political disenfranchisement. I meant, I might even argue that Donald Trump's first term came off the back of the 2008 financial crisis, and his more recent term came after COVID's economic disruptions.
I'm not disagreeing with about economic disruptions and how anxiety around those disruptions influenced public perception and support leading into WWII.
Just wondering how long powerful men in the military and government have been manipulating public perception.
Especially given the stab-in-the-back myth seemed to be Ludenhorff's excuse for Germany's failure under his military leadership following WWI.
And the Marshal Plan bought the US a tremendous amount of goodwill in Europe, however I don’t think Trump understands the concept of soft power, the way he keeps pissing it away.
Yes, the Marshall Plan. Not only did it help Europe get back up, it was a genious move to project US values and soft power against the sovjet block.
Also, that money was repaid (Iran probably won't do that)
since trumps father, grandfather are both war dodgers from germany, i doubt he knows about it.
One could argue that USA rebuilt a colony & had vast interest in the region (still has to this day, military personnel & nuclear weapons included). So at best a smart investment that paid for itself several times over.
UHM, NO??? It’s usually the losers who pay back the winners???????? For loss and damages of their own home country. It’s really funny how he thinks throwing money at the problem will solve any issues. Far as we know they still want his head.
Ate the onion?
C'est le beaverton.
He ate the beaver.
FUCK thought it was the “not the onion” LMAO
I had to look twice. Fucked timeline.
New level achieved! The source, while not literally the onion, is still confusing people. That being said, I expect a lot of smelly breath in these comments.
I blame the onion for being too close to reality recently. They should adjust for to the absurdity inflation.
Can we give it to them?
To the untrained eye, great success looks like a massive failure, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. That's why they call it the "art" if the deal.
For real though, I'm sure geriatric Garfield and co. went into this knowing they would always find some way to fuck over everyone else and make a small fortune, no matter what the outcome. He's not on the hook for that $300B, we are.
He literally just built a gold plated ballroom and a UFC octagon in his backyard, and his lap doge just became the world's first trillionaire after breaking multiple laws and facing zero punishment, but we can't have cancer research or healthcare bc the national debt is unsustainable. And now he's got an open $300B tab with Iran we have to figure out how to pay off even though most people are living paycheck to paycheck and can't buy groceries.
If I didn't know any better, I would think it's almost like Trump, Musk, and all the other hated public figures in this wrecking crew, were put together to do an unbelievably bad job, while failing upwards at the most inopportune times, in order to further destabilize the United States and the entire globe.
Hey. Don’t insult Garfield by linking him to Trump. Garfield was an intelligent (if hungry) cat!
Well, US is the warmonger. They killed many people of all ages, destroyed houses and roads, together with Israel. Shouldn't such a country pay to try to compensate for all these wrongdoings ?
It'll be interesting to see how well thr hyper-reality simulacrum conservatives maintain holds up to this defeat.