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[–] blackbeans@lemmy.zip 66 points 3 days ago

France should just ignore this and apply the taxes anyway. The orange bully doesn't know how to legally implement tariffs and he is way to busy trying to stay out of the Epstein controversy.

[–] Ziggurat@jlai.lu 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just do-it, Not only the tax on tech will help french economy and push people to use "local" solution, but the US trade tariff on french wine means that less Champagne will go to the US, which means less demand for the same offer, so cheaper price for Europeans. Price for Champagne and other decent wine raised way faster than inflation, and a 40 EUR bottle of bad champagne isn't worth that much

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Plus Trumps tariffs will be ruled illegal anyway, and his cronies will keep the profits because nazis gonna nazi.

[–] IratePirate@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago

Average MAGAt: "I did nazi that coming!"

[–] Arras@nord.pub 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wait until Trump realises that France is in the EU and that you can't tarriff France alone.

[–] sidebro@lemmy.zip 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] newton@feddit.online 3 points 3 days ago

And fail ,again and again

[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Someone should tell Trump tariffs on French wine will just boost sales of California wine. Maybe he hates California enough to back off.

[–] wasabi_noir@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That would also result in wine being more environmentally friendly. Shipping liquid in heavy glass bottles is a carbon footprint nightmare, so people should be drinking wine as locally produced as possible.

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nah, humanity is really good at shipping. Locally sourced wine is only environmentally friendlier than shipping if you happen to live in a vintner.

[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Unsurprisingly, that doesn't seem to be true, but also the studies seem to arrive at pretty different numbers about how much worse it is.

Some authors, such as Neto et al. (2013), show that the distribution of wine has a relatively small impact of 1.9% (0.05 kg CO2e/bottle of 750 ml) relative to the viticulture and wine bottling stages in the supply chain. Others, such as Bonamente et al. (2016), estimate the distribution of bottled wine to represent approximately 41.1% of the total life cycle emissions of wine at consumption.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2210539526000866#t0005

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

Exactly. Even in the worst case, it's better to ship a bottle of wine from California to Canada, than try to use greenhouses to make a Canadian winery a reality.

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If French is facing tariffs, the EU is going to respond. That is playing trade war on "stupid" mode.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago
[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

Anyone remember like a month ago when the Supreme Court ruled he can't do this?

[–] oyzmo@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Dictator says obey me or else! Taco time

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh darn, no more collecting French wine in the cellar!?

How fucking tone deaf is this. You don't get to collect a sales tax on Internet services or else we will tax this luxury item.

Who the fuck is Trumplethinskin working for here? It isn't your average American getting some barefoot wine at the grocery store for fucks sake.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

I buy my wine in cans.

[–] elvith@feddit.org 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not sure how the volume of wine sales is, but it feels like BigTech has a way higher volume? On the other hand, it’s a 100% tariff vs a 3% tax…

[–] tal@lemmy.today 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

https://wine-intelligence.com/blogs/wine-analytics-pricing-report-data/us-wine-imports-decline-in-2025-impacting-major-suppliers-and-prices

For 2025:

France and Italy maintained their positions as the largest suppliers to the United States by value. France exported €2,130.4 million of wine (-7.9%), while Italy reached €1,807.7 million (-13.21%)

That being said, I suppose that he could probably find other French products to impose tariffs on.

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c4279.html

In 2025, the US imported $68 billion from France.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wtf are those numbers? Was this written by elementary school kids? There is a name for 1000 million, its called a billion...

[–] tal@lemmy.today 12 points 3 days ago

grins

Controversial take, given the forum.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_and_short_scales

1475: France is using long scale.

Early 19th century: "France widely converted to the short scale, and was followed by the U.S., which began teaching it in schools. Many French encyclopedias of the 19th century either omitted the long scale system or called it "désormais obsolète", a now obsolete system."

1926: "It should be remembered that 'billion' does not mean in American use (which follows the French) what it means in British."

1948: "The 9th General Conference on Weights and Measures received requests to establish an International System of Units. One such request was accompanied by a draft French Government discussion paper, which included a suggestion of universal use of the long scale, inviting the short-scale countries to return or convert.[35] This paper was widely distributed as the basis for further discussion. The matter of the International System of Units was eventually resolved at the 11th General Conference in 1960. The question of long scale versus short scale was not resolved and does not appear in the list of any conference resolutions."

1960:

The 11th General Conference on Weights and Measures adopted the International System of Units (SI), with its own set of numeric prefixes.[6] SI is therefore independent of the number scale being used. SI also notes the language-dependence of some larger-number names and advises against using ambiguous terms such as billion, trillion, etc.[37] The National Institute of Standards and Technology within the US also considers that it is best that they be avoided entirely.[38]

1961: "The French Government confirmed their official usage of the long scale in the Journal officiel (the official French Government gazette).[39]"

1974:

Mr. Maxwell-Hyslop asked the Prime Minister whether he would make it the practice of his administration that when Ministers employ the word 'billion' in any official speeches, documents, or answers to Parliamentary Questions, they will, to avoid confusion, only do so in its British meaning of 1 million million and not in the sense in which it is used in the United States of America, which uses the term 'billion' to mean 1,000 million.

The Prime Minister: No. The word 'billion' is now used internationally to mean 1,000 million and it would be confusing if British Ministers were to use it in any other sense. I accept that it could still be interpreted in this country as 1 million million and I shall ask my colleagues to ensure that, if they do use it, there should be no ambiguity as to its meaning.

The BBC and other UK mass media quickly followed the government's lead within the UK.

During the last quarter of the 20th century, most other English-speaking countries (Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Zimbabwe, etc.) either also followed this lead or independently switched to the short scale use.

1994: "The Italian Government confirmed their official usage of the long scale."

[–] greenhulk@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

He doesn't have the cards.

[–] tirateimas@lemmy.pt 11 points 3 days ago

The French can sell their wine to the rest of the world. Ignore the orange man, he has no legitimacy to interfere in the French internal affairs.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

The only people buying imported wine aren't those concerned about the price change.

[–] sznowicki@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

There’s Paris and France towns in Poland. It’s a great news to those cities because now they can act as a bottler companies for all those French wines and keep the French labels and “produced and bottled in France” while bypassing the “Tarif on France” which is nonsense in itself.

[–] BigShammy80@feddit.org 7 points 3 days ago

It's so funny. Demanding a common tax for making profits with tech apparently is "unfair". Must be his tech bro's who are not happy. Probably he received a message: "We don't wanna pay taxes, do something!".

[–] medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

So, let me understand. His MAGAAs were trying to pair a nice Bordeaux or Châteauneuf-du-Pape with their Wagyu beef dinner, and noticed it was a little pricey? Is that what he's fixing?

Meanwhile, the EPSTEIN files have Trump's name throughout them like a fungus in a flooded basement. Trump is a shit smear.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Trump tells France to scrap sales tax or else he'll punish his own people with another tax instead.

Every day is a tortured exercise to remain sane.

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And France yawned

Moving on….

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

The French will one up him and ban the export of wine to the US on the grounds that its going to waste.

[–] kossa@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Secret environmentalist move by Trump. Wine is one of those products where I'll never understand why it gets shipped around the world.

You can produce good wine in NA. Same here: I am sitting between France's and Germany's best wine regions, but I can buy wine from South Africa, Australia and California?! Why?

[–] Overspark@piefed.social 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Because it's a different product with a different taste.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Nah, one tastes like the other. That's quality! /s
(It's 6 months and 10 days till Christmas :-p)

[–] nimisnimi@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's simple: many people don't like it when the Party and "supreme leader" tell them what to wear, which food/drinks to consume and what books to [not] read. But it's out of comprehension of agent Krasnov - or his comrade, mister Pootin.

Not a secret environmentalist move, but an obvious sign of incapability and malice.