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[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 4 points 42 minutes ago* (last edited 38 minutes ago) (1 children)

The issue is that historically, the authoritarian leftists (the marxist-leninist groups) turn on every other leftist group the minute they gain power, rounding up anarchists or regular Marxists to either imprison or execute them.

It has happened very consistently, such as during the Russian Revolution, Chinese Revolution, Spanish Civil War, and even Grenada. Without that historical context it makes it seem like the infighting is over pointless squabbles, when in actuality it's Anarchists and Marxists trying to prevent people from being tricked into supporting an ideology that would result in yet another lethal purge were they to gain traction and political power.

Which, ya know, I think is a pretty reasonable worry.

[–] Planchette_Phantom@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 minutes ago

Authoritarian communists are why "tankie" is still a valid insult.

[–] Planchette_Phantom@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 minutes ago

There's a MASSIVE difference between average Marxists, anarchists, and people who praise literal red fascists like Stalin.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

In the United States there are people who genuinely believe NATO is a leftist organization. (There are NATO countries that legalized gay marriage, unlike non-NATO countries. That is the kind of actual rationale, I am not kidding.)

We also have folks that truly believe socialism is fascism. (Citing the authoritarianism of Stalin.)

Which means we got people who are NATOist anti-communists who fully believe they are leftist anti-fa.

We have been wholly robbed of the means of coherent discourse that it is barely even infighting. It's just plain fighting.

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 46 minutes ago (1 children)

Shitlib. I'm the only real communist. I bet you don't even read theory.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 19 minutes ago

I will portray you as a crying soyjack on a political compass opposite of me, depicted as the chad. Literal praxis.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Missing the faux-leftist righty maga, the Israeli bot, the China bot, and Russian bot stoking the majority of the flames to make genuine consensus unpalatable.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 2 points 36 minutes ago

Don't forget the American bot cosplaying as all three and doing its best to make all of them look as bad as possible.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

Nothing has ever made more sense in the history of fiction than Andor's "fuck this shit, I'm done."

[–] BennyTheExplorer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

The problem I have with this argument is that some people, that call themselves leftist aren't actually. They are just pro red-facism. And even if we just went along with them, they would eventually find a way to backstab us. Lennin killed all the anarchists.

I am really against working with these people, because you can't trust them to have basic principles. I am not saying, that we should actively fight them, as long as they are useful in fighting facism. But we should still critique them actively and not let them invade genuinely leftist spaces. Not only because they are not to be trusted, but also because they could scare of other reasonable people and or make them think that leftism is when you like the Soviet Union.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Not really an argument so much as an observation of how lemmy, and the fediverse in general seems to work.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Leftists aren’t infighting it’s the got-danged lie-burls!

They keep voting!

/s

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 17 points 8 hours ago

Now do the same comic but replace the swastica with a hammer and sickle lol

[–] faltryka@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe the left right dichotomy is false and creates a presumption of two camps that doesn’t align with reality.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

One of the two camps will be given power, so.

Yes and no?

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

You don’t understand if I create a party that’s never existed and get a lot of people who historically don’t vote to vote for it, it can be as big as a party as the two main ones.

Suggesting anything different means you love corporations, billionaires and genocide.

[–] Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 42 minutes ago (1 children)

really struggling to understand wtf this means??

if I create a party that’s never existed and get a lot of people who historically don’t vote to vote for it, it can be as big as a party as the two main ones.

so IF you create a party thats never existed (fairly easy), and IF you get non voters to vote for it (basically fucking impossible without corporations, billionaires and genocide), then it could be another major party?

is this what you meant? are you suggesting it is actually a simple process anyone can do because freedom or something?? go do it! go make the next major party, no one else has realised how simple it is for the last how many decades?

Suggesting anything different means you love corporations, billionaires and genocide

now because i think the systematic pressures of western imperial government are nearly impregnable to crack without mass movement of the people, you think i support genocide??

seriously, ive been struggling to understand the POV of this comment for about 10 minutes and it just seems like a mess of proto-ideology.

or is it just bullshit maggotty cum you spewed from your ass and i shouldn't think about garbage?

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 23 minutes ago

I think he's just being a smartass. About 95% of his comments are satirically disingenuous. He's a troll, but in a good-natured way. Just imagine an "/s" at the end of every comment he posts and it'll make much more sense.

The joke here is that some tankie accounts actually talk that way unironically. I know that's not what he's doing because I've seen him talk shit to those people, and it's hilarious.

I used to think he was annoying until I caught on to what he was doing. Now he's like a landmark of the threadiverse and he's had some real zingers.

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

I mean you have people who are pro-police and pro-military yet justify owning guns so they can overthrow the government.

The trick is to base your belief system on hating things you don’t like. That way you can ignore the completely contradictory tenets of the things you’re apparently fighting for.

[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

That used up all of their critical thinking.

[–] EyIchFragDochNur@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Because they're good enough to tolerate each othe