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[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 109 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I hate the modern ones you need to hover above so they even display, and then it's 1 pixel wide and a shade of grey that's about 2% darker than white.
Less functional and 500 lines of js garbage.

[–] chisel@piefed.social 24 points 1 month ago (5 children)

It's a few lines of css, no JS required.

.my-div:hover {
  overflow-x: scroll;
}

And the look and feel of the scrollbar is generally determined by the browser/OS. Unless someone does a custom scrollbar implementation, but that is exceedingly rare. So that thin rounded gray bar is a browser/OS design, again, without any JS.

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't know about scrollbars specifically, but apparently a lot of windows 11 is written in react

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It’s the start menu that’s written in react.

[–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

And Microsoft Store. And the weather. And also in that edition that literally just launches a browser into a remote machine, they decided to make the Ctrl + Alt + Del menu also a browser. For some reason.

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 50 points 1 month ago (1 children)

1998 was truly the best time. When all OS widgets looked the same. And could be used in apps, and everything had a consistent look. Yeah you could override this in your app. But fuck people who did that. Everything looked so nice and uniform and you knew what to expect from a widget and its look and behavior. Get off my lawn.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

That reminds me.

Haven't whipped my llama's ass in a while.

[–] postcapitalism@lemmy.today 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I like how they added some grip between 2001 - 2009 so you would have some traction when you used then

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

My cursor kept slipping off them all the time anyway 😢

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Now you can't even find the fucking thing when you need it. Thanks, "UX design".

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

UX, whatsat?

Also, it completely disappears after a second.

[–] antonim@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

I didn't try it yet, have this open for a while now. 😅
Supposedly, it allows proper tag search.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

imho the clustered version of the scroll bar buttons (like in Amiga Workbench 2.0+, Macintosh OS, macOS, KDE) make way more sense to me (minimal mouse movement to change scroll direction) than this spread out layout.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

OS X Lion apparently forgot to add the scroll bar entirely

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 4 points 1 month ago

Hope somebody got fired for that epic blunder

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[–] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 month ago

System 1 my beloved

[–] zonklezoop@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

2009, pls.

But I guess with the end caps from 2006.

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

1998 not only had the best scrollbar, but the best UI overall. Shoulda just stopped then and we would have utopia by now

[–] BlackRoseAmongThorns@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 month ago

I'd say 2001 and 2006 purely because the scrollbar is textured in a way that make it seem dragable at first glance |=|.

Which is standard by now but still, besides that 1998 has all the other visual cues to denote what's clickable and i would otherwise agree as i generally prefer flatter designs.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

And then they got thinner every year while screens got wider..

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

But our eyes cant see more than a few pixels wide anyways!

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[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 13 points 1 month ago

2012? Elder? Cmon, it wasn't that long ago... wait... no...

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

1998 was in my formative years with computers, so I will always be partial to it. Xfce can get pretty close.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Honestly I’m partial to it as well. Possibly for the same reasons, but also because the bar and buttons are clearly defined and have good contrast. The later designs begin to fade out until now the scroll bar is just a thin line, which is sometimes hidden, so you don’t see it unless you’re looking for it.

[–] poinck@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

To me, they are just indicators of how much content I can expect. I scroll with the mouse wheel or using the page down/up keys. I don't grab the thing. I only need to see the indicator when I am scrolling.

But I wonder whether there is a accesibility aspect to always visible and wide scrollbars. I think, the best way to deal with it, is to make it an option how they look and behave.

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[–] squirrel@cake.kobel.fyi 10 points 1 month ago
[–] sonofearth@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

I love how 1998 looks. It is clean and servers the purpose. 2001-2009 feel over designed, 1988 and 2012 not sure whether the dark part is the scroller or the light part lol.

[–] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What was wrong with the high contrast of 1988?

It is at home in both light and dark mode

[–] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago

My only criticism is lack of affordable on the slider. Is the dark part the slider or the light part? Some of the newer ones have the little ridges for "traction".

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The issue with 1988 is that it isn't intuitive what the background color is, and thus if the bar is up or down.

The middle years are obvious because of the 3d effect. The last one is obvious because the background is the same for both the arrows and the bar.

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It never got better than 1998

[–] antonim@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Do you remember the feel of switching from 1998 to 2001? It felt like stepping into the future.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I miss my big chonky scroll bars. now they hide them.

[–] adhdsergio@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Search for "Always show scroll bars" in settings

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

that'd be helpful if they were wider than 5px.

I'm in my 50s with macular degeneration so seeing small things can be difficult.

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[–] Spooge@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago
[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

1988 still the best one, somehow

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

agreed. no embellishment, just design that makes the functionality obvious.

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[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Definitely either 88 or 98. Large, very visible, no bullshit. I prefer 98, but would also be perfectly happy with 88. The reason I like 98 better than 88 is because 98, while not as high of contrast, is closer to if it's physically there, with shadows and stuff, and therefore visually faster recognizable as a scroll bar, it's more intuitive.

[–] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Give me 98 with the little lines of the next 3. I think it enhances noticeability quite a lot without adding a distracting amount of contrast

[–] los_chill@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago

Agree. 98 with grip would be my ideal.

[–] SpongyAneurysm@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

88, because it covers visually impaired better. That higher contrast pays off. But I remember you could do some color theming for the 98 version, so maybe it couldve been fixed in that regard. And I agree on the design being generally easier to understand.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

By 2026 AI does the scrolling for you, a feature made mandatory (all scrollbars removed) in 2028 😭

[–] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And pauses for 30 seconds over each ad.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago

More profitable to deliver ads seamlessly without pausing but shown continuously all the while scrolling. 100% profits!🤑💸

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[–] realitista@lemmus.org 3 points 1 month ago

2009 was peak

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I miss that glass aesthetic from 2001

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