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[–] poinck@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

To me, they are just indicators of how much content I can expect. I scroll with the mouse wheel or using the page down/up keys. I don't grab the thing. I only need to see the indicator when I am scrolling.

But I wonder whether there is a accesibility aspect to always visible and wide scrollbars. I think, the best way to deal with it, is to make it an option how they look and behave.

[–] antonim@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

Do you remember the feel of switching from 1998 to 2001? It felt like stepping into the future.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Now you can't even find the fucking thing when you need it. Thanks, "UX design".

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

UX, whatsat?

Also, it completely disappears after a second.

[–] antonim@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Is that add-on good?

[–] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 4 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

What was wrong with the high contrast of 1988?

It is at home in both light and dark mode

[–] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 hours ago

My only criticism is lack of affordable on the slider. Is the dark part the slider or the light part? Some of the newer ones have the little ridges for "traction".

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

The issue with 1988 is that it isn't intuitive what the background color is, and thus if the bar is up or down.

The middle years are obvious because of the 3d effect. The last one is obvious because the background is the same for both the arrows and the bar.

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 10 points 6 hours ago

2012? Elder? Cmon, it wasn't that long ago... wait... no...

[–] Spooge@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago
[–] postcapitalism@lemmy.today 28 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I like how they added some grip between 2001 - 2009 so you would have some traction when you used then

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago

My cursor kept slipping off them all the time anyway 😢

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 76 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I hate the modern ones you need to hover above so they even display, and then it's 1 pixel wide and a shade of grey that's about 2% darker than white.
Less functional and 500 lines of js garbage.

[–] M137@lemmy.today 1 points 4 hours ago

Some suck, sure, but some work well. The ones on MacOS are good IMO, and some android ones (while others absolutely suck).

[–] chisel@piefed.social 14 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

It's a few lines of css, no JS required.

.my-div:hover {
  overflow-x: scroll;
}

And the look and feel of the scrollbar is generally determined by the browser/OS. Unless someone does a custom scrollbar implementation, but that is exceedingly rare. So that thin rounded gray bar is a browser/OS design, again, without any JS.

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know about scrollbars specifically, but apparently a lot of windows 11 is written in react

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 3 points 8 hours ago

It’s the start menu that’s written in react.

[–] Starik@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago
[–] glibg@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

I'm partial to 2006

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

UX, whatsat?

(There's a barely distinguishable scrollbar there, screenshoter can't even capture it.)

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 33 points 11 hours ago

1998 was truly the best time. When all OS widgets looked the same. And could be used in apps, and everything had a consistent look. Yeah you could override this in your app. But fuck people who did that. Everything looked so nice and uniform and you knew what to expect from a widget and its look and behavior. Get off my lawn.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Definitely either 88 or 98. Large, very visible, no bullshit. I prefer 98, but would also be perfectly happy with 88. The reason I like 98 better than 88 is because 98, while not as high of contrast, is closer to if it's physically there, with shadows and stuff, and therefore visually faster recognizable as a scroll bar, it's more intuitive.

[–] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Give me 98 with the little lines of the next 3. I think it enhances noticeability quite a lot without adding a distracting amount of contrast

[–] los_chill@programming.dev 2 points 5 hours ago

Agree. 98 with grip would be my ideal.

[–] SpongyAneurysm@feddit.org 2 points 5 hours ago

88, because it covers visually impaired better. That higher contrast pays off. But I remember you could do some color theming for the 98 version, so maybe it couldve been fixed in that regard. And I agree on the design being generally easier to understand.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

And then they got thinner every year while screens got wider..

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

But our eyes cant see more than a few pixels wide anyways!

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago

An endangered species

[–] sonofearth@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago

I love how 1998 looks. It is clean and servers the purpose. 2001-2009 feel over designed, 1988 and 2012 not sure whether the dark part is the scroller or the light part lol.

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

1988 still the best one, somehow

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

agreed. no embellishment, just design that makes the functionality obvious.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, and then they kept fucking with it for almost 40 years just for the sake of fucking with it. Enshittification marches on.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 16 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

imho the clustered version of the scroll bar buttons (like in Amiga Workbench 2.0+, Macintosh OS, macOS, KDE) make way more sense to me (minimal mouse movement to change scroll direction) than this spread out layout.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

OS X Lion apparently forgot to add the scroll bar entirely

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 3 points 8 hours ago

Hope somebody got fired for that epic blunder

[–] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 2 points 9 hours ago

System 1 my beloved

[–] zonklezoop@lemmy.zip 18 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

2009, pls.

But I guess with the end caps from 2006.

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

1998 was in my formative years with computers, so I will always be partial to it. Xfce can get pretty close.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

Honestly I’m partial to it as well. Possibly for the same reasons, but also because the bar and buttons are clearly defined and have good contrast. The later designs begin to fade out until now the scroll bar is just a thin line, which is sometimes hidden, so you don’t see it unless you’re looking for it.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I miss that glass aesthetic from 2001

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Seems like it’s coming back

[–] squirrel@cake.kobel.fyi 9 points 11 hours ago
[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 4 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

By 2026 AI does the scrolling for you, a feature made mandatory (all scrollbars removed) in 2028 😭

[–] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

And pauses for 30 seconds over each ad.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 2 points 9 hours ago

More profitable to deliver ads seamlessly without pausing but shown continuously all the while scrolling. 100% profits!🤑💸

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago

From next year the government will be allowed to scroll for you if they deem it in the interest of national security

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago

'98 to '09 was the sweet spot. Textures make the page slider easier to spot and use.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 3 points 10 hours ago

2009 was peak