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How long do we have before shit starts to break down due to lack of food and water, even in the imperial core? I give it less than a year at best.
Let's bet.
Take your pick:
In no world would I put money on people starving. Polymarket ass brainrot Jesus Christ
You're right it does seem like a Polymarket brainrot bet.
I want to clarify where I'm coming from. For starters, what I was trying to say was that I'm not as pessimistic. I don't believe in blatant conflict-of-interest bets, but I do like betting with friends quite a bit, especially when it comes to social processes. I usually bet a fast-food hamburger because it's cheap and we can catch up or talk about why we each thought we were going to win the bet.
I've lost one bet and won dozens. Usually, my friends are pessimistic and I'm not so much.
So, here's my proposal. Instead of betting, how about I just say I hope the world's alright?
Okay fair. I was overly aggressive. I hope everything’s okay too. Here’s hoping
It's either socialism or extinction. That fact is becoming obvious to even average people.
I might just be overly pessimistic but I honestly think it’s already too late to fully avert a climate crisis. Over here in the UK we have just had our hottest May on record at over 35 degrees Celsius. 35 C, in the middle of May, in the fucking United Kingdom is not normal under any definition of the word. We’ve gone from being memed on for it constantly raining to having water droughts in summer.
Despite that, everyone is addicted to LLMs, our public transport is like something from the 1940s and Nigel Farage who is almost certainly going to be our next prime minister wants to scrap net zero. All this to say, I’m not very optimistic.
If Reform UK think immigration is too high now then wait until half the planet is uninhabitable.
It definitely is. We are getting hothouse Earth and it'll be worse then predicted. Humans will be lucky to not go extinct in the next millennia imo. Warming is going ridiculous and so many resources are already depleted. You can't "go out west" and live off the land, it's already been plundered. We make up like 90% of the biomass.
We are all dogs in God's hot car 
There isn't really any frontier to be uncovered or opened up, but there is quite a lot of lawn grass, monocrop farmland, and less-than-ideal* land out there.
*the 8 degree slopes and creeks that make porky say oof ouch owie i can't build a subdivision there
Everything always looks most fucked before we make it based. Please repeat my cringe until we get revolution.
We are very fucked.
Unfortunately just when I start to not feel as miserable and like life might be worth living.
Unfortunately just when I start to not feel as miserable and like life might be worth living.
Excellent! What fun would a revolution be if you wanted to die? 
I do not have high hopes for a revolution tbh, climate is going to kill us before that
Also life just sucks :shrug-outta-hecks:
Hey I just figured out some nutritional deficiencies that were messing me up for years, have a lot of my health in order now and for the first time in decades feel moderately functional… at least the bright side is that I’ll be somewhat capable of resisting whatever violence comes next right?
Also as lame as it is this tends to make me think back on the LOTR quote of Frodo talking about being dragged into his struggle:
“I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”
You do not have to worry about the Ebola epidemic in Africa rn. So long as it does not become suddenly airborne (which this strain is not particularly likely to do iirc) we will be fine. Much of Ebola's ability to spread is aided by the DRC's inadequate medical system and armed conflicts. Ebola is an awful and existentially dreadful disease that will naturally occupy your mind but I insist that its potential to become a pandemic is low.
Everything pretty much sucks tho yeah
I'd be more worried about finding out there's some fun cool side effects to covid infection 15-20+ years on i.e. post-polio syndrome (which killed Isaac Asimov)
Why would a majority of the population having organ damage from repeated infections affect their long term health??
that's an entirely separate issue from dormant viral DNA starting to fuck you up again 20 years later (which we don't know if it does, but if it goes dormant in nerves/etc, why not) but yes that too
I just keep hearing the whole “normalcy and established institutions and their regular functioning will save us” sentiment and it’s giving me mad Déjà vu. Maybe you’re right. It just seems like everything that could go wrong for the stupidest reasons possible must go wrong.
CW: mention of self harm
If the Bundibugyo strain becomes airborne it is almost certainly because god exists and they hate us. There is precedent for an airborne filovirus (Ebola Reston) but it thankfully doesn't affect humans. Regardless it means that Ebola has the capacity to become airborne. The odds of this happening is very low but should this ever happen and make it to my country of residence I am killing myself. I don't mean to alarm I just mean to impress that if I thought this outbreak had pandemic potential I wouldn't downplay it like in my previous comment. You can rest easy knowing that Ebola is a relatively immobile virus and should that change it would be divine punishment rather than human failure.
Everything under heaven is utter chaos
Partially spurred on by a post on true anon, I think that AI is skynet using time travel to send back terminators in the form of Scam Altman to build so many datacenters it speedruns human extinction.
If I'm not stopped I'm going to post this every time Sam Altman is mentioned
Anyone Else Have Those Weird Dreams Where Sobbing Future Generations Beg You To Change Course? By Sam Altman, CEO, OpenAI
The best time to go vegan was the earliest moment it became possible in your individual circumstances. The next best time is right now.
I’m coming up to my 4th veganniversary. Easily one of the best decisions I have ever made.
o7 thank you for your service and mazel tov!
embrace the beans and rice lifestyle
Been doing that, wondering if I shouldn't invest in a rice cooker to make fresh white rice. So far though goya's rice you simmer on the stovetop has been pretty tasty.
Get an affordable micom rice cooker and you'll never look back.
I got a $40 cuckoo model and the only thing I'm missing compared to the bougie zojirushi models is a GABA rice setting.
Rice cookers can be had for relatively cheap at your local cheap big store (depends on the country, but there's always one). If you have the disposable income you can get those fancy Japanese ones, but I've never thought it was worth the money.
I got a $25 one that I'll saute vegetables and throw rice, water, and a can of beans in, and I'll have a meal ready for me when I get home. I eat rice and beans of some kind almost once a day, so getting a rice cooker was a pretty easy call for me even though I'm not really a kitchen appliance guy
I think every home needs a good too many small kitchen appliances.
How do we have an emoji of the dishwasher guy, this site rules
That's the neat fact. We don't I made it myself.
For the foreseeable future? Quite.
Pretty dang fucked, but I think we're way more likely to see another round of price gouging on food than actual shortages, at least in the short term. Water is really down to region, some areas are okay, some are already depleted but won't realize it for a few years.
Either capitalism dies or Mother Earth dies.
The Earth is gonna be fine. It's us hairless apes living on it that aren't gonna have too good of a time. Give it a few millenia and we'll be a blip in the fossil record.
If there aren't revolutions in the major capitalist countries within the next few decades then capitalism will push us far beyond several impossible to stop feedback loops that will greatly accelerate and exacerbate the current ongoing mass extinction, if not lead to outright omnicide. The only way to save us would be every major economy shifting to total war-level footing but for entirely reorganizing production and mass conservation efforts.
Next few decades? I'm more worried about the next 10 years by itself. Imo we're looking at global economic collapse probably starting early 2027 or so. Then world war 3 probably by 2030. You could argue we're already in it. I just mean the big one (China vs USA). It may be delayed a bit due to the US just having horrible supply chains and needing time to ramp up production on bombs/missiles. I think they'll invade Cuba before Trumps term ends and use a bunch more too.
I'm expecting the Armenians to have some sort of civil conflict soon and the Ukraine and Iranian front to merge together for the most part. Israel will just continue to get more belligerent and expansionist. I really don't see how we could possibly avoid at the least a huge regional conflict at this point and the US seems hell bent on starting WW3 too.
The climate is going to suck, but people will adapt to it. China for sure. They're already working on all the tech they'd need to feed their entire country with hydroponics. Thorium for power will be the game changer. Generally the way of life most people in the west live now is just not going to last. It's unsustianable. They'll get a wake up call soon and will react by going full fash like the reactionaries they are. Then the rest of the world will have to reign them in. It'll be a mess and it'll happen faster than anyone would expect.
We're all gonna die one way or another, whether it be from climate/economic collapse or in bed in a post-revolution state.
The dialectical view of everything being fucked is it creates openings for well-organized revolutionaries to seize power. Think of how apocalyptic WWI seemed (at least to countries that hadn't already experienced the colonization apocalypse in the centuries prior). It was also the closest we've ever been to a global communist revolution, barely failing to cascade through Europe.
The capitalists are gonna suffocate in their bunkers while we rebuild society without them.
sideways
In all seriousness though? Eat now. Put on a few pounds if your skinny. Nothing crazy but don't be too thin because a few pounds can save your life if food is hard to come by. And buy a huge bag of rice and dried beans and just stick it in your pantry. Couple tubs of peanut butter. Those are all cheap, calorie dense, and give you carbs, fats, and protein. It can get you through a tough few months. Plus they last forever anyway so you have time to eat them even if you don't need them in an emergency.
20lbs bag of dried white rice 10lbs bag of dried pinto beans 2 40oz containers of peanut butter. That's roughly 30,000 calories for like 30-40$. If food prices get out of control using that to supplement what you have by just adding fresh produce to it and stuff is a great way to not go hungry.
If you want meat and have freezer space you can buy bags of chicken quarters now and clean/freeze them individually for later. They're the cheapest meat you can get usually. Usually comes in a massive 10lbs bag.
Being poor teaches you how to make a dollar stretch.
get in a habit of using those dried rice and beans too. It doesn't last forever and cycling through it will keep it somewhat "fresh" but also give you practice making food you like out of them.
How long do we have before shit starts to break down due to lack of food and water, even in the imperial core? I give it less than a year at best.
Shit is already broken, it’s just not at your doorstep.
I’ll die of a heart attack. I’m just worried about what my children will face.
It’s been really nice knowing y’all
I mean, I’m kidding
Or am I
Seriously ten years ago I’d have a shine to put on this turd. I can’t anymore. I don’t even know anymore.