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[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 87 points 6 months ago

This is one of those posts where ultimately I agree with OP, evolution is real and we certainly saw it with the COVID-19 pandemic in case anyone was still in doubt. Still, OP is an edge lord and gives this instance a bad look when they post edge lord stuff like this.

[-] eezeebee@lemmy.ca 28 points 6 months ago

Yup. This kind of thing gives a bad name to atheists and is one of the reasons I don't like to bring it up often. We should be more respectful and set a good example, not stoop to the shit-slinging level.

[-] Tremble@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I’m not so sure about that.

At a certain point, we need to just put it on the table. You can believe in a vengeful sky daddy if you want to, but it’s not real and your faery tale beliefs don’t get to dictate how I and my family live our lives.

It really is important to make this obviously and even painfully clear.

I give zero fucks what your Bible or your sky daddy is telling you to believe.

[-] eezeebee@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 months ago

To me this Facebook boomer meme style is not something I find helpful for anyone, it's just rage bait. If this is the kind of thing religious people think of atheists when we discuss our beliefs, it's starting on a bad foot.

"Putting it on the table" when it's a plate of poop just perpetuates their persecution complex. Maybe something more thought-provoking and less aggressive would be better. "You catch more flies with honey than vinegar".

[-] Tremble@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Considering your religion has been used to justify murder, racism, bigotry, homophobia, and countless other injustices….

And considering you learned about your religion from the exact people that caused and perpetrated these injustices…..

You need to get your head out of your ass with that bs.

I give zero f’s about what your religion has to say. And it needs to be absolutely clear that your beliefs don’t get to dictate mine or anyone else’s life.

If you don’t like that. Too bad.

The only plate of poop here is religious beliefs.

I don’t need to catch flies or convert people to my side.

But I do need religious folks to understand that they can GTFO of my life and lifestyle, and that your religion does not fucking matter to anyone but you.

(Edit: rhetorical you, you seem like a reasonable person, but I think this can’t be overstated enough. Whatever your religion is it doesn’t matter to anyone but you.)

[-] eezeebee@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 months ago

But I do need religious folks to understand that they can GTFO of my life and lifestyle, and that your religion does not fucking matter to anyone but you.

I could not agree more with this. And I mean, it's ok for us to disagree on how we express it, though.

[-] dpkonofa@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

No one who would actually be able to be convinced of this is going to be swayed by a condescending meme like this. You can make the message clear without being an asshole.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

I agree that this meme is not the right message or the best format. But I'm also not sure we shouldn't be speaking out more. Christians will claim to be persecuted whether or not atheists challenge them. Christians will think all atheists are like OP regardless of whether or not atheists challenge them. We should speak up more frequently, more honestly, and with less deference to the idea that a belief is valid just because it would piss off a lot of believers if it wasn't.

To share your beliefs is to invite critical evaluation of those beliefs. Anything less is a courtesy not extended by the person sharing their beliefs.

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[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I had a biology professor in college refuse to teach the evolution lessons because she didn't believe in it.

[-] uphillbothways@kbin.social 25 points 6 months ago

She wasn't teaching the science of biology at that point. She was teaching her own thoughts and feelings and should have been removed from her position.

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

I requested something like that with my dean but nothing changed.

[-] eezeebee@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 months ago

My highschool World Religions teacher told us "he followed one of the religions he was going to teach, but would not tell us which one". Big respect for that, teaching us objectively what was out there.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Where was this?

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