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I take back everything I said in my previous post because of this
Further erasing the source of truth so it can be rewritten by the highest bidder.
this post was submitted on 20 May 2026
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The co-founders of google that are still on the board, did business with epstein.
I want to downvote this so bad but I know that's not the point of downvotes...
I too sometimes wish it would be possible to boo stuff that gets published in digital media. 🫨 Some stuff is just too triggering.
We need a post upvote/downvote for the quality of the post and media upvote/downvote to say how much we hate or love the content.
Reactions, like on Piefed. Pretty nifty.
you're gonna use AI whether you like it or not ..... oh wait, I left google search long ago
Not only will this suck but it will also be very dangerous. A large company whose goals are profit and manipulation that is essentially embedded in society should not be allowed to have this kind of control over this facet of the public square.
Yesterday, as the goog search-results-page was taking 4-5 seconds to generate the AI-guff at top, it made all the site-links unclickable until AI summary was done. 🚽
(Disclaimer: Was on a random PC)
Hey another reason to stop using Google's enshittified search engine.
It’s not even a search engine anymore. It’s just another stream of ad revenue for them. They’re an advertising company, NOT a search company.
Glad I stopped years ago. F—k big tech.
If AI really were that good, it would have naturally displaced human written answers by now.
Louis Rossmann already talked about how if he generates his website content with ai, or post-processes it with ai, it scores #1 in results consistently, whereas THE SAME information written in a human way, scores down in the hundreds.
They already did it.
Self-host SearXNG on your laptop/PC. Your only regret is that you'd wish you'd done this sooner. Both SearXNG and Docker have helpful setup pages that walk you through the process. https://docs.searxng.org/
I’ve been hosting searx(ng) for like a decade or more. Rarely does it not find what I’m looking for.
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They really know how to please their customers (the advertisers).
Actually, the advertisers lose too, this is just a way to get people to search more than once so advertisers dollars don't go as far.
Doubt it, the AI will direct people directly to the advertisers.
There are multiple stages of enshittification:
- The company offers a useful service, often for free or at a reasonable price.
- Once it's gained enough users, the company cuts corners to save costs, and abuses the users to sell their information, attention, work, and / or time to business customers, like advertisers, and might start charging for the once free service, or increase costs. This significantly degrades the quality, usefulness, and usability of the service, but by this point the users probably have no alternative, or most other alternatives are doing the same.
- Once it's gained enough business customers and cornered the market, it starts cutting corners, degrading the service, and increasing costs for these customers, who, again, by this point have no viable alternative.
- Once the degradation and cost increase have reached the level beyond which even the captive users and customers would start leaving in significant numbers, the corporation extracts as much money as possible from its investors and stockholders, for instance “investing” in datacentres that won't ever be built while distracting them with shiny but useless “innovations” like AI.
- The CEO runs away with the money, possibly including a bailout, and the company dies, leaving the investors and stockholders with the debt, the users without a service, the customers without a product, and society poorer than before point 1.
Google is currently at stage 4, having abused both users and customers to the point that many are leaving, and burning money as fast as possible to enrich the top brass and try to look like a company worth investing in.
It won't be long before it implodes, but it'll still be too long.
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I honestly thought it was already doing this. Whenever I accidentally use Google on my phone, it gives me the ai result that I have to exit out of, before I can see the results list.
Maybe it wasn’t that way for desktop?
Either way, I am trying to avoid Google and microslop as much as I can. I’m slowly removing them from my life, piece my piece.
Email is my next challenge. I really hoped self-hosting it would be easier by now.
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And if you try to use the AI search to actually find any actual websites or articles it will just hallucinate them. They kept telling us AI was the future of search, but we know they want it to be the future of information.
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I love that Google has convinced themselves they can be a massive advertisement company without the mechanism that got us to look at the ads.
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hear me out.
my job requires me to use AI as a KPI. Now, I don't have to look for answers on google anymore while I'm at work. I'll just regurgitate the AI answer.
when I'm at home I'll use DDG and actually spend time and effort on solutions.
this is an absolute win. work gets zero effort, and I spend my time on more important things like not giving a fuck if capitalism rots from the inside ouy due to AI.
Better I propose AI usage for other teams. Now people requesting work from IT have to convince a chatbot their demands are usefull and then fill a jira which is checked by a chatbpt too before having access to a human. What problems can this bring ? I wonder.
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Geez, a person would have to think for like 2, maybe even 5 seconds to forsee how this plays out. Instead of buying apples from the orchard, we'll be buying apples from the local apple thieves. Hey, why are there no more apples?
...rather than ~~making you~~ allowing you to decide what kind of search experience...
I wouldn't be so frustrated with AI popping up everywhere if we were given clear choices about whether or not we want to use it.
I noticed that dictionary definitions on Google are now AI-generated, whereas they used to be taken from the Oxford English Dictionary, written by humans. Needless to say I much preferred the human-written definitions.
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"We, Google, who produce an AI, are now prioritizing AI content in our search engine, in a totally unrelated decision to our AI production, so that we can totally not artificially inflate the imaginary value of AI so as to force more people to use our AI to create content, so it will show in our search engine we've gone to lengths to skew results in the favor of AI in to give you the best service imaginable (because its imaginary to think we provide the best of anything)"
I really wish we'd get another president into the office thats willing to take a massive hammer to these big companies and bust them up into shards again.. preferably this time making sure they cant T2000 themselves back together into the original whole, thats somehow worse.
Serious question: can anyone vouch for a search engine today that prioritises… searching? and does it well?
I used DuckDuckGo for a couple of years, but I’d found the result set frequently lacking compared to Google. I’m currently on Brave search (+ Brave Browser), and it’s good for text, but it does shove an LLM response at the top and is pretty bad for image results.
SearXNG is a local option and is fairly easy to get a container running for it.
It's not the cleanest, but it will let you search about anything that is searchable if you allow it. (It'll aggregate results from ~244 different search engines so beware. It's a "metasearch" engine.)
It can be a bit slow at times (especially if all the things are turned on), and is a bit like Google in its infancy. However, there aren't ads or promoted results. It's fairly raw, if you are into that kinda thing.
Getting the API working with Python can be a pain at times due to its bot control mechanisms and strict header checks. (I believe they default these features ON if someone accidentally makes their instance public or something like that.)
As a paid search engine, Kagi actually prioritises doing what users want.
Want AI? It's available. Don't want AI? Turn it off and you'll never see it again.
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Dammit. Now I have to spend more time at the library. Thankfully it ain't too far away.
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