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In the latest episode of "they will always sell you out" - they sold you out! Who would've thought.

Hoping for a good alternative client to appear, the writing is on the wall. Vaultwarden can't exist without "leeching" off of Bitwarden.

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[–] wickedrando@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 minutes ago

i was just thinking this week with the passphrase addition how good bitwarden is and when will the other shoe drop. There it is.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 hour ago

All hail the new Chief Enshittification Officer!

[–] Cyber@feddit.uk 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

My solution:

https://keepass.info/donate.html

(& yes, I'm linking to their donate page first)

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 3 points 1 hour ago

why this over keepassxc?

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 4 hours ago

They all want all of the poor people dead. They are wagging war on us.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 21 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Ah shit. Here we go again!

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Can anyone say “Enshittification”!

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 7 points 10 hours ago

Enshitification coming right up!

For once ADHD preventing me from completing a migration is a boon

[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 13 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Move to KeePass while you still can, because at some point Bitwarden is going to try to closed-source again.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Oh crap, how's KeePass got an LLM involved‽ Time to look into this now...

I did find https://codeberg.org/ChiPass/ChiPass , but it looks like a very new project.

[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

...actually seems quite reasonable.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

very much so.

[–] RonnyZittledong@lemmy.world 121 points 17 hours ago (32 children)

Jesus, I'm tired of switching password managers.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 16 hours ago (11 children)

KeePassXC + KeePassDX is probably the best option, with the downside of no way to sync easily (syncthing is probably the best option there)

I might switch back at some point, been getting frustrated with the bitwarden extension performance always being so poor.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

My first password manager was KeePassXC.

Hooked it up with Syncthing, and I've never had issues aside from the occasion database duplicate.

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 2 points 5 hours ago

Right, and it has a neat merge-database feature anyway, so no excuses for those holding back!

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[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

Once again, enshittification by the fucking suits.

Early on I decided to use only KeePass for full personal control instead of an online service. Didn't regret making that decision.

[–] godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 15 points 14 hours ago (7 children)

Has Vaultwarden said anything yet? I imagine that, if necessary, given that bitwarden's client is still open, at the point they choose to try and close it, we, the users, can fork it and establish it for vaultwarden, correct? Or, maybe even the vaultwarden team will think about forking it themselves and making a light client as well to pair with the current server.

But Vaultwarden can exist without "leeching" they just haven't needed to yet. That's more symbiotic than parasitic. The parasite class just took over Bitwarden after all.

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[–] qwestjest78@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 hours ago
[–] Shortstack@reddthat.com 55 points 18 hours ago

That’s troubling, I don’t like what this portends.

The new CEOs background especially suggests they’re spiffing up the company for a later sellout, why else would they pick a merger specialist for the role?

[–] sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works 15 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

They responded on reddit and walked some of it back as an "oversight": https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitwarden/comments/1tdvnh7/comment/olznwcv/. Allegedly, I'm too lazy to verify.

[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 22 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

A change that would require intent to make is not a mistake or oversight.

This sucks. I committed to Bitwarden years ago and now am going to have to switch before they lock me in the garden.

[–] german@pawb.social 16 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They also haven’t addressed the removal of inclusion and transparency from their goals.

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[–] silentjohn@lemmy.ml 29 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Every company is basically evil at this point.

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[–] otter@lemmy.ca 44 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

I think the original title was more helpful because it shows that this is a recent development. Maybe you can add "new CEO"?

Bitwarden scrubs ‘Always free’ and ‘Inclusion’ values from its website as longtime execs step down

In February, longtime CEO Michael Crandell moved to an advisory role, according to LinkedIn, with no announcement from the company. His replacement, Michael Sullivan, former CEO of both Acquia and Insightsoftware, touts his experience with “all facets of mergers and acquisitions” on his own LinkedIn page, including experience working with leading private equity firms.

CFO Stephen Morrison also left Bitwarden in April, replaced by former InVision CEO Michael Shenkman. Both Crandell and Morrison joined the company in 2019. Kyle Spearrin, who started Bitwarden as a fun hobby project in 2015, remains the company’s CTO.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 16 hours ago (8 children)

This is why corporate promises can never be trusted, because a new CEO can change those promises on a whim.

It's part of why despite being interested in Beeper, I never signed up for it because I had questions about if those privacy promises they made would be kept if they sold to a bigger company... which they eventually did.

On the plus side they already made an official open source self-hosted version, which can be forked and/or return to the community developed Vaultwarden roots.

Meanwhile KeepassXC keeps on chugging along.

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[–] palmtrees2309@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (2 children)
[–] auntieclokwise@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

No, KeePass. Fully open source, no cloud involved in any way, unless you want something to sync your data (the server only ever sees your encrypted database - all encryption and decryption is done locally). You can also host your own sync server using any of a variety of different protocols.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Yep. KeePass + Syncthing is the best.

Back up the database(s) regularly. (Syncthing can also retain x number of versions and things like that, but also do your own 3-2-1 backups.)

You can use something as simple as a Pi, or an old laptop, or even an old phone if you get creative, as an always-on syncthing server to keep them synchronized. KeePassXC even has a fancy integration with Firefox, so all you gotta do is unlock your database and click autofill on websites.

[–] eli@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Yup, been doing this combo for 5-6 years now.

I use KeePassXC on desktop and KeePassDX on Android. No issues whatsoever.

I do have a NAS so that's my "always on" device for Syncthing. Everything syncs up within like 10-15 seconds when a device connects.

I also use a key file as a pseudo 2FA that I keep on a flash drive, so you'd need my master password and my key file to unlock the database.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I hate to break the news but the issue with Bitwarden is that the client sucks total ass, and there are no drop in 3rd party replacements for the browser plugin.

Been running Vaultwarden for a while now and even though the sync implementation is nice and clean, it's just not worth the end user experience.

This is really dumb when compared to literally every other password manager, open source and enterprise which does a much better job of actually being a password manager and not a glorified encrypted text file.

I'm eventually going to switch back to KeePassXC and just suggest setting a master password with Firefox's builtin password manager for everyone else who just wants a painless user experience and not have to deal with syncing vaults.

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