America: capitalism good, competition bad.
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Bring the BYD yang yangwang u7 to canada please...
Can I get an electric vehicle without giving up my privacy or autonomy?
Possibly soon-ish. The Slate Truck has nothing in it to track you. … it doesn’t have much in it at all. Which makes me love it more. https://www.slate.auto/en
Not in the United States, no
Pretty important reason to not switch to electric if you ask me.
Older cars are dying out little by little in both streets and junk yards. Spare parts for them won't be manufactured forever either. This is a problem that has to be legislated away or barring that, have a big enough hacking industry to work around these things.
Here's hoping for hobbyist industries to offer alternative electrics. We don't need a bunch of complex systems to tell electric motors to go or stop.
I'd like to say just snap any antennae in the vehicle. Or, Faraday cage it. Or if you're really creative custom car OS. TempleOS comes to mind.
Likely to render the vehicle inoperable until fixed. Electric vehicles seem particularly vulnerable to service denial for any reason a company or government might decide.
Dunno about you, I wouldn't own a Chinese car until they start building them as reliable as a Honda or Toyota.
Here's the rub, EV engines have far fewer moving parts and are extremely reliable.
My work just got a fleet of electric iveco vans and they are shit. Constantly breaking down, having battery issues, fatal error messages all the time. Seems like maybe it's more software issues than hardware, and they're lovely when they're actually working.
Just a friendly reminder BYD defiantly put an Elon style god mode and wireless networking into these heaps.
Here's hoping the backdoor is exposed in a way that is funny like bitlocker and not tragic like the CCP ripping off the CIA
I’m not familiar with the Elon style god mode, what’s that all about?
Isn't it weird how a country that constantly claims to be The Best™ at everything has to overtly and systematically restrict its citizens from purchasing better products made elsewhere?
It ain't weird if you've been paying any attention to how nation states compete, over the years.
I'm so confused. I thought the foundation of Capitalism was free market pressure. Doesn't restricting what people can buy and where from kind of undermine the entire ideal?
Well I see where your confusion comes from. You thought the USA was capitalist, but the reality is that America is VERY socialist. You can have it all in the USA, as long as your in the in group. And by in group I mean you must have 2+ million dollars, once u are elite rich you unlock the socialism in USA and get government contracts, restrictions that put you above the competition, bail outs and safety nets out the wazoo if you mess up, the best health care in the world etc. You must be more like me, part of the serf class that gets the "pleasure" of making all this possible with poor wages and taxes that find the corporate machine.
Yes, but the counterpoint claim is that Chinese products are not competitive on a free market. The TEMU shit is a good example of this claim being true. Whether or not the Chinese government is paying for infiltrating the Western markets by dumping prices is one thing, but their lacking safety quality control and slave like working conditions are indisputably true. We should not accept products from China that do not produced under the same standards as our own.
I see... So the American companies like Apple, Nike, all major clothing brands etc that make use of the very same somehow aren't able to bring their prices down? I fail to believe "quality control" is enough to justify it.
Both Apple and Nike are made in China.
I'm just explaining why domestic production of junk in EU and USA is usually more expensive than similar functioning junk from China.
lacking safety quality control and slave like working conditions
Boy it's a good thing American companies haven't all moved their manufacturing overseas to take advantage of those exact conditions, pocketing the profit while enjoying protectionist laws like the one discussed here. That would make us look really silly.
Yes. Absolutely.
Exactly.
We will get Chinese electric cars in the USA when Xi pays Trump more to bring them here than Elon pays him to keep them out. He already laid the groundwork by systematically kneecapping domestic electric programs via his signature racketeering style, knowing he would make more money in the long run fire selling our car market to China than he could ever steal from the domestic market.
Ever been to a Goodwill Bins store? The Art of the Deal was forged in the fetid pressure of the piss-soaked remains at the bottom.
The issue is that US car mfr execs will get less bonuses if they choose to compete with BYD. Its easier to tariff Americans than give a few CEOs a salary cut.
You mean except in gilliad?