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[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 12 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I’d be more concerned about why the pilots are debating this. Is that what they are seeing up there?

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 4 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

"I have terrible news: the people flying this plane are nihilists."

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 hours ago

"We believe in nossing!"

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I changed my mind. I’ll pay the $8 for that beer now.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 6 minutes ago

lol, 8. It's been 10 for ages on most flights.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I imagine there's a decent amount of slack time on long haul flights.

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 2 points 8 hours ago

The plane literally flies itself for most of the trip.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 hours ago

I imagine that the abyss is like a mirror, and when you stare into it long enough you realize that you're staring into yourself; hence, you the abyss is staring back into you the sub-conscience projection of self-entity.

[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 19 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Ophthalmologist: "Well clearly he was writing of the dangers of reading in the dark and the long-term damage it does to your eyesight."

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty shitty opthalmologist if they didn't point out that's wrong.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Not necessarily reading in the dark, but I imagine staring into the dark for long periods of time means that your eyes aren't ever focusing on anything.

Too much "indoor time" where peoples eyes aren't getting exercised by focusing on distant objects often enough strongly correlates to myopia.

I still think staring too long into the abyss would be detrimental to eye health, even if not for the exact reason the other person said!

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Being inside yes, darkness, no. And that's straight from my eye doc when I asked about reading by the campfire.

Believe me, I've stared into the abyss plenty outside. Actually staring into the distance in darkness is a suggested exercise to relieve eye strain from screens.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I think we're talking about two different things and at vastly different magnitudes.

Being inside doesn't make your eyes worse because of like... the air in there. Or a roof. It's because wile you're in there your eyes aren't ever focusing on something far away.

And it doesn't happen overnight. It's over the course of tens of thousands of "missed outdoor hours".

If you stared into an abyss with nothing distant to focus on over tens of thousands of hours, it'd be the same problem. It's not because it's dark. It's because it's an abyss.

When he was warning about "too long" into the abyss, it's tens of thousands of hours (which displace outdoor time). You can look into the abyss a little bit. Sometimes. As a treat. Just not for too long.

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'm talking pitch blackness. My eye doc said turn off all lights, cover both eyes, open them, and try to focus as if you're focusing on something in the distance.

Seems like same level as staring into the abyss, just less existential dread

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I concede if that's the case. If you're saying that without active effort, looking at nothingness in leiu of looking at actual objects that demand focus has no detrimental effect on eyesight... forever... then I guess you're right.

I don't believe it... the idea that you or anyone have described this absurd hypothetical scenario (which is fundamentally not at all the same as "reading by a campfire" by multiple dimensions) on your own accord to a medical doctor srltrikes me as ludicrous, but, it sounds like you do fundamentally understand the premise I'm laying out.

But, if you actually did, and that was te actual response, then there is no rebuttal to be had, and I guess im just out to lunch on this one.

[–] thenextguy@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

I hope not. They should be in the plane.