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The recent surge in fuel prices due to the war in Iran has spurred demand for electric vehicles around the world, and Chinese car makers are making the most of the opportunity.

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[–] sbbq@lemmy.zip 87 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Sure wish rich dicks weren't holding back innovation in my country!

"free market".. oops, cept for those things.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 1 month ago

they want you to buy thier overpriced evs in the us.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 83 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Its amazing what a boon the trump cartel is for China and green energy

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 1 month ago

He should be awarded the Nobel prize for advancing environmental causes.

[–] late_list@piefed.zip 49 points 1 month ago

BREAKING NEWS: Thing that is happening can in fact happen!

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pretty sure they've been doing fine without the US market for years.

(It's going to be interesting to see what happens when BYD sets up dealerships just north of the border, since Canada has given them the okay to import a certain number of vehicles per year.)

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

(It’s going to be interesting to see what happens when BYD sets up dealerships just north of the border, since Canada has given them the okay to import a certain number of vehicles per year.)

Better to look at Australia. Low tariffs only apply to 50,000 cars made in China, which include Volvo and Teslerrr. This means the cars they import will be expensive.

But Canada tried an experiment with BYD buses, they set up an assembly plant near Toronto in 2019 and the buses were so bad, no one ordered them because they broke in testing. Toronto ordered 25 and sued to get their money back, and by 2023, BYD Bus Canada was shut down after building a whopping 10 buses.

Buying a new model from established car makers is a bad idea. The reality is there is no long term data on these Chinese EVs.

[–] thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

London (UK) has been successfully running BYD EV buses for years with no major issues. They're cheaper than the diesels to run and quieter. Not sure why Canada had so much trouble.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was curious about that so tried googling ….

Canadian buses were

  • earlier models - I see years like 2018
  • at least some were built in a new plant in Canada
  • part of the blame was lack of spare parts
  • part of the blame was limited range, especially in winter

London buses

  • newer. I see years like 2024
  • no real winter
  • I see articles about a new larger battery to fix range issues
  • appeared to have similar problems, including a major recall for fire risk

Maybe London benefitted from newer models and doesn’t get as cold as canada

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[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"thriving car company not selling in the U.S. says it exists"

Well yeah, we know it's doing well and it isn't here... Why would the title even need to be stated?

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To remind pedohitler that his country is not the center of the world and that others can in fact survive and thrive without him.

[–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 month ago

Pedohitler is a nice word, gonna steal it.

[–] Forsho@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Didn’t one of US presidents advisors mocked BYD and labeled it as non competitive to EV market.

Maybe this was a good reason to be stated.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

I think the rest of the world is getting there too.

[–] PushButton@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Isn't there another post where it shows the cars in the USA are spying on you, triggering an alarm when it detects that you are tired and what not "technological advancements" they put in them?

Hey China, you are welcome to sell me your clean cheap car!

[–] thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

BYD doesnt sell cars in the US according to the article so no, I don't think BYD is spying on you.

However that other post you're thinking of was possibly the one about the US manufacturers being forced to build in the spyware by the US govt...

Kinda the opposite to your direction of travel in tge post it seems to me ?

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[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hey China, you are welcome to sell me your clean cheap car!

Sure, but they'll be spying on you too.

[–] dovahking@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What's better? To be spied by your government that can use your data against you or the foreign government who can't.

In an ideal world there'd be no spying, but we don't live in one.

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I mean, I agree we don't want spying, but: a foreign government absolutely can use your data against you. Whether its creating a profile on you that could later be used against you when you enter that country, using it for statistical or targeted data for influence campaigns...there are a lot of ways.

China in particular has repeatedly deployed extra-territorial "police service stations" in at least the UK, Canada and the US to punish or harass those it's identified as "Chinese" dissidents or sympathizers in other countries.

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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 18 points 1 month ago (14 children)

A huge domestic market is a strong advantage for Chinese manufacturers.

Even if every single country stops buying Chinese cars, they'll still have a base of 1.5 billion potential customers.

With more countries actively partnering with China, this number goes up considerably.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Trump is training the world in how to live without us. Congrats!

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes. But as an American I want to thrive with byd here!

They're just better electric cars than what we can get...

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We can't even get those small Japanese trucks

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[–] PM_ME_YOUR_BOOBIES@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Dude. Where’s the NSFW tag?

[–] stumu415@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Most Americans would not buy a Chinese car anyway.

I love that Americans pretend to be the most important and competitive market. The combined population of Europe is twice that of the US. South East Asia is 700 million. And the choices in EV's is triple that off the US.

These are the markets Chinese manufacturers are after. These markets accept Chinese cars based on the price, quality and innovation.

[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Most Americans would jump at the opportunity of the price is right. They might tell you to your face they won't but they will.

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[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They used to say that about Japanese cars in America too.

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I wouldn't be so sure about that. If BYD were allowed to import their entire fleet to the US they would be at the top of my interest list on price alone even if the US prices were double what Ive seen in new articles.

I'm personally in need of a new vehicle and everything, both the pickups I need and the passenger cars, are too expensive and has too much shit I don't need installed by default. I'm literally holding my car together with ducktape and bailing wire waiting for the Slate Truck to come out.

I think that if Slate Auto actually pulls off a inexpensive light duty EV pickup, and it proves reliable, it may completely change the landscape of the American auto market. I'm pretty sure that Ford and maybe Jeep will survive, but I'm not sure the others will unless they can start kicking out lower priced vehicles quickly.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 8 points 1 month ago

No one cares about population. It’s about gdp.

American media pretends. Americans are just stupid.

Id buy a Chinese car before an American one (as an American).

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (16 children)

There are around 290m cars in the us for the 330m people

There are around 420m cars in Europe for the 730m people

So while the actual amount of cars in all of Europe is more than the US the percent car ownership in a single country is insane

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[–] Soulg@ani.social 4 points 1 month ago

I want nothing more than to be able to buy such a cheap electric car that BYD could sell me.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago

The whole world is starting to find out that they can thrive without the usa, now that they have to (unless they kiss the ring). Fuck, it's just like Stephen King's novel "The Stand".

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago

By doubling down on ICE and ultra expensive penis replacement "trucks" the Auto Industry and it's paid up politicians there are basically committing suicide, so sooner or later there will be plenty of room in that market for auto makers with friendly priced electric cars.

[–] cybercafe@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

But I truly want them here. I work in the automotive industry and yeah, they’re scared shitless. However, from my point of view it seems like a greed thing. It would drive competition hard and that would mean short to medium term r&d cost increases.

We are so fucking far behind it’s not even funny. Shutting out the competition is just putting our head in the sand. It is time to get into gear.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Canadian here who wouldn't mind trying a BYD.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You guys either already have them or will very soon. I haven't checked the progress lately, but it's certainly moving forward.

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[–] Emi@ani.social 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

If possible, every country should be self sufficient in areas they have. We were almost fully sufficient until those assholes sold everything to make a quick buck.

(Guess the country)

Edit: hint-we sold our sugar production to France so they can manage it better but instead they closed it so we have to buy sugar from them.

Edit-edit: It's Czech republic

[–] Sabin10@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Not really narrowing it down there

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[–] Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Tesla had pioneer advantage

The Chinese will make better vehicles more efficiently and cheaper

That should make everyone happy

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[–] D1re_W0lf@piefed.social 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Even before this US war on Iran. BYD was already the top seller electric brand, ahead of European and United States brands, so I’m a little confused with this article.

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

i think they're just reminding the conmander in chief that they in fact do NOT need murica to do well.

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[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

As can we all.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (10 children)

So glad that Biden decided that protecting Elon Musk's financial interests was more important than Americans having affordable electric cars.

Every centrist who rails against tariffs but makes excuses for Biden's protectionism is a massive hypocrite.

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[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

It's so pink. I want it!

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