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[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 149 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like netgear routers are now 100% confirmed to be compromised with backdoors instead of just being probable

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 49 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Time to flash the old Netgear router with some open source firmware.

[–] RadicalRebel@sh.itjust.works 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (8 children)

Yep, but unfortunately it's not always as straight forward as it may sound. Plus, with routers becoming more difficult to acquire, it'll only get harder and harder to pull off. But there's OpenWRT and dd-WRT that work with a pretty decent range of routers as well as ASUS Merlin for many ASUS routers. Then, if you want to get nerdy with it and build your own router from an old computer, there's OPNsense and pfSense. Eventually it'll come down to these two if the ban is longterm and you want any semblance of obfuscation online...

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

GL.iNet are flashable and come with their fork of OpenWRT out of the box. I run the latest regular OpenWRT on mine.

[–] maccentric@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What about regular do you find preferable to than their fork of WRT?

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

Yes, OPNsense is excellent if you have a spare computer to run it. Then you can repurpose your consumer router as a WiFi access point. I still feel safer flashing the old WiFi router with open firmware before using it even as a WAP.

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

I tried getting into the nerdy side. I have an old PC with only one NIC, but apparently it needs two in order to bridge to a WiFi AP? That makes sense, but I don’t have an old PC with two NICs. Also, my NIC doesn’t support as much bandwidth as I have supplied anyhow. Sad times.

Edit: the desktop is old enough that the mobo doesn’t have the slots I need. Effectively, I have to get a new old burner PC. It’s an old ThinkCentre with a dvd player built in.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago

If it's a desktop PC you can buy a PCIe card with multiple Ethernet ports pretty cheap, especially if you buy used.

[–] RadicalRebel@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well ya, you need at least two NICs to properly setup a firewall. Additionally, since NICs are the most crucial piece of hardware for routers and firewalls, it'll only be as good as the hardware it runs on. Older NICs lead to regular crashes and/or slow network speeds. So swapping the original NIC out and adding another is VERY typical when repurposing old PCs as a router. The most common options for NICs I've seen are the Intel I350-T2 and I350-T4. Ironically, they cost about as much as a decent router, but going this route actually puts you in control of your home network!

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[–] claymore@pawb.social 4 points 3 days ago

USB network cards are even cheaper than PCIE if you don't mind lower performance (if you don't have USB3 ports you're limited to theoretical 480Mbit)

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[–] IratePirate@feddit.org 53 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"Corruption" is the word you were looking for.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 8 points 3 days ago

Yes, but that would take work.

This is tech journalism. If evidence connecting something can't be Googled in 30 seconds, it's just an area of speculation.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 103 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 46 points 3 days ago

Except they don't even bother with the table anymore.

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[–] Davel23@fedia.io 95 points 3 days ago (1 children)

First winner of the Netgear Peace Prize to be announced shortly.

[–] kinther@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Made me snort with that one

[–] schwim@piefed.zip 79 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There's a reason and the reason will likely be revealed to be kickbacks and payoffs.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 51 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Two possible reasons:

They agreed to installation of American spyware, probably not limited to models sold in the US, or they paid their dues to Trump, and he called the FCC.

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[–] AdamBomb@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago

It’s obvious: the reason is money

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 46 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Spyware preinstalled. Has to be.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Well netgear has a stellar reputation for screwing up their firmware horribly so if they are involved in implementing the implant it absolutely will be noticed.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Alternatively, if it suddenly starts working, we know they aren't writing it.

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[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 58 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Corruption is pretty obvious these days.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It may always have been, its just more obvious than before.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 8 points 3 days ago

Yeah this. They're not trying to hide it anymore. Just 10 years ago corruption may have required journalistic effort to uncover, now the admin yokels just shout it from the rooftops, hoping to "trigger the libs".

[–] rozodru@piefed.world 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

ah so don't buy a netgear router because the US Government will be listening in/watching. got it.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Do you really think they weren't already?

[–] Hazor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Right, do we not remember PRISM? Edward Snowden is still living in exile in Russia.

They don't need to tap your router when they already tap the routes.

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[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 days ago

This whole situation has made me realize that I need to get back on the OpenWRT train.

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Gonna be really funny when it's revealed in 5 years that Netgear routers have a backdoor for the Chinese govt and the US okayed it because of the money the Trump admin got.

It's literally the type of corruption that was claimed China would do for the last 4 decades.

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[–] Resplendent606@piefed.social 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This tells me Netgear probably bent the knee and kissed the ring.

[–] TrollTrollrolllol@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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[–] giacomo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago

paid that troll toll.

[–] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago

Is it because Netgear is a "US" company? Meaning they are on the US stock exchange, have corporate offices in the US, and manufacture everything in Asia?

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I get the aching feeling its because Netgear likely agreed to some backdoor shit, or to just funnel all user traffic to ICE

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Netgear likely agreed to some backdoor shit

If that's how you win Trump's favor, count me out forever.

[–] fletcher_bosom@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

Extortion is one reason.

[–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

People still read the verge? After the Stefan fiasco I figured no one would ever trust them again.

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