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[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 152 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Sounds like netgear routers are now 100% confirmed to be compromised with backdoors instead of just being probable

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 50 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Time to flash the old Netgear router with some open source firmware.

[–] RadicalRebel@sh.itjust.works 31 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (8 children)

Yep, but unfortunately it's not always as straight forward as it may sound. Plus, with routers becoming more difficult to acquire, it'll only get harder and harder to pull off. But there's OpenWRT and dd-WRT that work with a pretty decent range of routers as well as ASUS Merlin for many ASUS routers. Then, if you want to get nerdy with it and build your own router from an old computer, there's OPNsense and pfSense. Eventually it'll come down to these two if the ban is longterm and you want any semblance of obfuscation online...

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

GL.iNet are flashable and come with their fork of OpenWRT out of the box. I run the latest regular OpenWRT on mine.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 weeks ago

Yes, OPNsense is excellent if you have a spare computer to run it. Then you can repurpose your consumer router as a WiFi access point. I still feel safer flashing the old WiFi router with open firmware before using it even as a WAP.

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (4 children)

I tried getting into the nerdy side. I have an old PC with only one NIC, but apparently it needs two in order to bridge to a WiFi AP? That makes sense, but I don’t have an old PC with two NICs. Also, my NIC doesn’t support as much bandwidth as I have supplied anyhow. Sad times.

Edit: the desktop is old enough that the mobo doesn’t have the slots I need. Effectively, I have to get a new old burner PC. It’s an old ThinkCentre with a dvd player built in.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 weeks ago

If it's a desktop PC you can buy a PCIe card with multiple Ethernet ports pretty cheap, especially if you buy used.

[–] RadicalRebel@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Well ya, you need at least two NICs to properly setup a firewall. Additionally, since NICs are the most crucial piece of hardware for routers and firewalls, it'll only be as good as the hardware it runs on. Older NICs lead to regular crashes and/or slow network speeds. So swapping the original NIC out and adding another is VERY typical when repurposing old PCs as a router. The most common options for NICs I've seen are the Intel I350-T2 and I350-T4. Ironically, they cost about as much as a decent router, but going this route actually puts you in control of your home network!

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[–] claymore@pawb.social 4 points 4 weeks ago

USB network cards are even cheaper than PCIE if you don't mind lower performance (if you don't have USB3 ports you're limited to theoretical 480Mbit)

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[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 106 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 47 points 4 weeks ago

Except they don't even bother with the table anymore.

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[–] Davel23@fedia.io 95 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

First winner of the Netgear Peace Prize to be announced shortly.

[–] kinther@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago

Made me snort with that one

[–] schwim@piefed.zip 79 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

There's a reason and the reason will likely be revealed to be kickbacks and payoffs.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 59 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Corruption is pretty obvious these days.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It may always have been, its just more obvious than before.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 8 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah this. They're not trying to hide it anymore. Just 10 years ago corruption may have required journalistic effort to uncover, now the admin yokels just shout it from the rooftops, hoping to "trigger the libs".

[–] IratePirate@feddit.org 55 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

"Corruption" is the word you were looking for.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 8 points 4 weeks ago

Yes, but that would take work.

This is tech journalism. If evidence connecting something can't be Googled in 30 seconds, it's just an area of speculation.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 52 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Two possible reasons:

They agreed to installation of American spyware, probably not limited to models sold in the US, or they paid their dues to Trump, and he called the FCC.

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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 47 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Spyware preinstalled. Has to be.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Well netgear has a stellar reputation for screwing up their firmware horribly so if they are involved in implementing the implant it absolutely will be noticed.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago

Alternatively, if it suddenly starts working, we know they aren't writing it.

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[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 43 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Gonna be really funny when it's revealed in 5 years that Netgear routers have a backdoor for the Chinese govt and the US okayed it because of the money the Trump admin got.

It's literally the type of corruption that was claimed China would do for the last 4 decades.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't think Netgear has any link to China

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 weeks ago

Just where they are manufactured

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

That we know of... For now...

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

......now see, you SAY funny. I think we have a difference of opinions on humor. You know what I find funny? You ever see that old video from the 90s of Donald Duck slumped down in his chair, getting a handjob from Daisey duck? And he can't handle it. He's all like "Ooooooweeeeee!!! Oh my gaaawwwwddddddd!!!! Playin wit ma balls! Playin wit ma balls!!!! Oooooooh!!!!!!"

And then he just cums EVERYWHERE, and it's all drippy on Daiseys face. She's just kneeling there, with a shocked look on her face, and Donald says "I'll go get you a towel!"

I found that funny. Not so much national corruption, bribery, and internet security fraud.

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[–] Resplendent606@piefed.social 29 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

This tells me Netgear probably bent the knee and kissed the ring.

[–] TrollTrollrolllol@lemmy.world 17 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 8 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] giacomo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 weeks ago

paid that troll toll.

[–] rozodru@piefed.world 27 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

ah so don't buy a netgear router because the US Government will be listening in/watching. got it.

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[–] AdamBomb@lemmy.world 26 points 4 weeks ago

It’s obvious: the reason is money

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 22 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I get the aching feeling its because Netgear likely agreed to some backdoor shit, or to just funnel all user traffic to ICE

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Netgear likely agreed to some backdoor shit

If that's how you win Trump's favor, count me out forever.

[–] fletcher_bosom@lemmy.world 17 points 4 weeks ago

Extortion is one reason.

[–] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 weeks ago

Is it because Netgear is a "US" company? Meaning they are on the US stock exchange, have corporate offices in the US, and manufacture everything in Asia?

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 weeks ago

This whole situation has made me realize that I need to get back on the OpenWRT train.

[–] gukleszl4hs48ughgxhr5xgd@fedia.io 4 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Makes sense that it would be one of the shittiest corps :/

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[–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

People still read the verge? After the Stefan fiasco I figured no one would ever trust them again.

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