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No, I feel you. I’ve noticed a lot of punching down lately — especially towards people with mental health issues and ESPECIALLY substance use issues.

In a recent thread I was honestly floored at the lack of compassion, but even more floored by the… support for the criminal (in)justice system and prison industrial complex?? When I said something about it I was told that… I was wrong?? That I should… support those systems because… DWIs are bad?? Okay then, hexbear, I see you.

Apparently yall don’t actually care about these issues or the people experiencing them if you deem them to be “trashy” — got it. Very cool. If this is the state of amerikkkan leftism we are indeed cooked and truly deserve to be wiped of the map.

If I say anything reactionary I will be extremely disappointed if you fuckers don't drag me for it

Hexbear has a lot of users so utterly unaware or possibly even uncaring about their own reactionary politics but I guess this is inevitable of an online forum, but the lack of effort to slow it down and when it does eventually get called out the speed at which people dunk the OP for simply suggesting there is an issue is infuriating especially from somewhere that claims to be leftists, communists and materialists

thank you for the post, and a reminder to people that a fundamental aspect of moderation is for the people to report posts and comments that violate the code of conduct.

I don't know if this post is about a particular explicit incident, but the constant baseline of casual ableism here is quite offputting at times. Everyone should be looking at the ableist terms in their own everyday parlance and excising them, as a first step. Consider why these words came into use as put-downs.

I have seen users here reject this suggestion offhandedly multiple times because it's "too hard" (all things require effort, and this is no harder than switching pronouns and grammatical gender when someone you know transitions) and "the words' meanings have changed". In the 1990s, the word "gay" almost went through this same process, yet we all agree that using "gay" as a put-down was bad. How is this any different?

I beg others to self-reflect.

I don't think this is what the post is about, but the "J.K. Rowling escapes insane asylum" Onion article that was posted here yesterday was pretty bad, it was basically just making fun of mentally ill people.

Also, I'd like to point out that autocorrect wanted to write "escapes insane asylum seekers" :disgost:

I'm a bit worried that someone I enjoy reading the posts of on here might have finally cracked the shits with hexbear for good over this earlier.

We really could use more self crit and struggle sessions cuz I think as a whole we have lowered our posting standards on almost every front. (except badposting which should be worse)

edit: and another user who I haven't seen in a couple of months who I also suspect would have left for similar reasons.

Have we pretty much lost the well read core that kept our community regularly introspecting on their language and beliefs? I know we still have some prolific well read effort posters and people who take that energy out of hexbear into the broader lemmy, but I feel there's less valuing of self awareness on hexbear recently. (I say as an addicted badposter)

I don't know exactly what you're talking about in this instance, but it's uphill getting communities to make progress because they want overly-pat solutions like forbidden words* and standpoint epistemology where you are liable to need to actively tokenize yourself to not be brushed off, when there are much deeper issues of social attitudes that are ableist. It's kind of difficult to explain how so very much of how everyday conversation is framed is ableist, especially since I'm not an expert in psychology or social work or anything and only know what I've experienced or can infer.

I really need to sleep at the moment so I'll just link to an arbitrarily-chosen old comment I wrote on the subject. I should mention that while I express pessimism on this topic, a number of users have been supportive and I really appreciate them, though you should assume they disavow everything else I've ever said unless stated otherwise. Some people have reputations to uphold, or so I understand, but even Bordiga could make a good point now and again.

I apologize if it comes off as me just hijacking your post for a soapbox I've gotten on like a dozen times already, but my purpose in talking about this is that I'm trying to address the "reactionary vibes" issue in a way that is more clearly-defined (albeit incomplete!) for the purpose of coming to a constructive solution. While I sometimes have trouble conveying something to a specific person, I usually have an easy time at least figuring out how to express something in a way that makes sense to me, but this is something where I still struggle to articulate it even to myself and I know the feeling of being stuck with a "vibe" that you can't account for.

*Not that forbidding words is bad, we should do that, I'm talking about conversation excessively revolving around such matters or, maybe more to the point, stopping there.

Logging back in to upvote this post (I am bad at taking a break)

special reminder, please find a better soft word than lame, if something is dogshit, or dissapointing, call it what it is

lame(adj.)

"crippled or disabled by injury to or defect of a limb or limbs," especially "walking with difficulty," Middle English, from Old English lama "crippled, lame; paralytic, weak," from Proto-Germanic *lama- "weak-limbed," literally "broken." This is reconstructed (Watkins) to be from PIE root *lem- "to break; broken," with derivatives meaning "crippled" (source also of Old Church Slavonic lomiti "to break," Lithuanian luomas "lame").

In Middle English especially "crippled in the feet," but also "crippled in the hands; disabled by disease; maimed." The figurative sense of "imperfect, halting, defective in quality or quantity" is attested from late 14c. The sense of "socially awkward" is attested from 1942.

As a noun meaning "crippled persons collectively" it is attested from late Old English. To come by the lame post (17c.-18c.) was an old colloquialism in reference to tardy mails or news out-of-date.

Germanic cognates include Old Norse lami "lame, maimed," Dutch and Old Frisian lam, German lahm "lame."

https://www.etymonline.com/word/lame

peace, I'm logging back out x

Its been making a resurgence irl as well, so its worth a mention, on one hand easy to type unthinkingly and this place is a spin off the cth and reddist tendencies die hard in a terminally online population, on the other despite this seeming a bit much education on the harm of words maybe be useful since in the deepest, dankest pit of reaction one doesn't see the light of humanization of the other, and to begin crawling out of that you must be re-taught all and yes I think some just don't know or make assumptions of 'this is how xyz concepts-ideas where always said' and not consider subtext.

Hopefully this isn't about me. I'm certainly guilty of an "idiot" or a "stupid" from time to time, self referentially and not, because I don't really have a good set of alternative language for casually dense behaviour of many liberals or ditzy "oh yeah, duh" moments I often have myself.

seconded. quite a bit of reactionary comments from hexbear accounts lately

Love you dort

I don't see why this post couldn't be more specific.

This is why i love this website