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Reminder that if you bring ableism into this instance you can fuck right off (hexbear.net)

submitted 2 days ago by Dort_Owl@hexbear.net to c/effort@hexbear.net

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I probably shouldn't be making this post. I hate getting involved struggle session highschool drama shit and I won't even point to specific evidence because frankly this shit depresses me. But here goes:

This might be a "wtf are you ranting about, Owl?" moment but there are some serious reactionary vibes in this place sometimes. Maybe it's a holdover from the dirtbag leftist era, I don't know, but it's gross. I see it trying to worm its way in here and it's a bad sign

If you ever catch yourself using the kind of shitty othering and ableism you'd see on stupidpol or a 2016 cringe compilation, go do some self crit or fuck right off

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[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I'm a bit worried that someone I enjoy reading the posts of on here might have finally cracked the shits with hexbear for good over this earlier.

We really could use more self crit and struggle sessions cuz I think as a whole we have lowered our posting standards on almost every front. (except badposting which should be worse)

edit: and another user who I haven't seen in a couple of months who I also suspect would have left for similar reasons.

Have we pretty much lost the well read core that kept our community regularly introspecting on their language and beliefs? I know we still have some prolific well read effort posters and people who take that energy out of hexbear into the broader lemmy, but I feel there's less valuing of self awareness on hexbear recently. (I say as an addicted badposter)

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think as people's lives get more stressful and they get more worried they're more inclined to panicky and (literally) reactionary thinking, more impulsive rather than more carefully thought out. It's hard to think through something when a part of your brain is telling you the world is ending. And self-awareness is one of the first things to lose from that.

Though I was looking through some several year old posts to check and honestly the quality of discourse isn't really all that different than today, I think people just forget all the low effort conversations and only remember the highlights. More self crit sessions are always a good idea though, there's never a point when we shouldn't try to be better.

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago

Though I was looking through some several year old posts to check and honestly the quality of discourse isn't really all that different than today, I think people just forget all the low effort conversations and only remember the highlights. More self crit sessions are always a good idea though, there's never a point when we shouldn't try to be better.

Oh that's a really good point about selectively remembering the highlights. I think at least some of the time I'm comparing to when the nascent community existed in just one subreddit, which now that I think about it obviously has different social dynamics compared to a site like this.

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I stopped trying to push people here to not use intelligence based insults long ago, every time I'd make a post about it I'd get people crawling up my ass about it, it's shitty and disappointing

[–] fluffy8192@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

what's the right basis for insults?